squire12 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, Shady Slim said: but yards per play doesn't measure explosiveness really does it. a team that hits a seven yard pass every play will have a considerably higher yards per play than a team that goes incompletion incompletion fifteen yard pass. the latter on the other hand will subjectively to the eye look like they're more explosive. i've already said perhaps his efficiency could be why i underrated rodgers on the eye test. being in the top five for a season is no mean feat! http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFL&type=Passing&rank=118 Passing plays longer than 25 yards Mahomes = 37 Rodgers = 37 Certainly a huge difference in explosiveness Josh Allen = 30 Edited January 10, 2021 by squire12 Added Josh Allen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 6:03 PM, Shady Slim said: i never said he was bad, tbf, i still have him in my top five players for the season which is no mean feat. perhaps because of the efficiency of the offense it didn't look as explosive and invincible, similar to the brady pats. regardless i just wasn't as wowed by his season as i was by allen's or by mahomes's, but i still had the guy top five jeez i'm not saying he stunk it up lol Potentially the worst part of an already terrible argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 23 minutes ago, squire12 said: http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFL&type=Passing&rank=118 Passing plays longer than 25 yards Mahomes = 37 Rodgers = 37 Certainly a huge difference in explosiveness Josh Allen = 30 I cant speak for Mahomes drop issues but if MVS caught half of the balls he dropped the number would easily be over 40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 27 minutes ago, Spartacus said: I cant speak for Mahomes drop issues but if MVS caught half of the balls he dropped the number would easily be over 40. All QB have drops. The number being over 40 is not the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEagle Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 14 minutes ago, squire12 said: All QB have drops. The number being over 40 is not the point. MVS wide open bombs regularly though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, TheEagle said: MVS wide open bombs regularly though. and no KC WR or TE have dropped any deep passes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 29 minutes ago, squire12 said: and no KC WR or TE have dropped any deep passes? Thats why I said I couldn't speak for Mahomes. MVS has had a number of wide open deep pass drops including one against the Bears. I understand the problem with bringing it up without knowledge of Mahomes or Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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squire12 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 15 minutes ago, Spartacus said: Thats why I said I couldn't speak for Mahomes. MVS has had a number of wide open deep pass drops including one against the Bears. I understand the problem with bringing it up without knowledge of Mahomes or Allen. So why do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 24 minutes ago, squire12 said: So why do it? Because it's a forum and we are soliciting discussion? If every post had to be perfect with no flaws there would be a total of 0 posts. But you already know that and your just being a ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, Spartacus said: Because it's a forum and we are soliciting discussion? If every post had to be perfect with no flaws there would be a total of 0 posts. But you already know that and your just being a ****. Way to raise the level of discussion by going the name calling route. You should be proud of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, squire12 said: Way to raise the level of discussion by going the name calling route. You should be proud of that. I mean I'm raising it just as much as you saying "So why post it?". Don't sit there and act like your on such a high road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 57 minutes ago, squire12 said: So why do it? Don’t think his point was to say Rodgers should have more than Allen or Mahomes, just adding a notation that the Packers had a particularly high amount of deep drops. Seems noteworthy, especially for someone like me that caught almost nothing out of Green Bay this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 19 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: Don’t think his point was to say Rodgers should have more than Allen or Mahomes, just adding a notation that the Packers had a particularly high amount of deep drops. Seems noteworthy, especially for someone like me that caught almost nothing out of Green Bay this year. I watched every GB game. Fully aware. Just don't see what it contributes other than sounding like a homer trying to prop up his QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, squire12 said: I watched every GB game. Fully aware. Just don't see what it contributes other than sounding like a homer trying to prop up his QB I mean your taking a small part of a larger argument and making it the argument. A point that I literally prefaced with " I dont have all the data". So your name calling me a homer really raising the level of discussion there buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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