BlaqOptic Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 1 minute ago, warfelg said: This line has to stop jumping when guys do that. Looks like Vance again. There was no jump... Ball literally snapped at the same time that Vance made contact with Burfict. It's piss poor officiating. At least that time they can argue they were trying to protect Ben from Burfict but they need to let it go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 1 minute ago, SlevinKelevra said: is unimpeded different than unabated ? No. When a defensive player does that the OL can't move until the ball is snapped or it's a dead play. That's a combo of Pouncey not seeing it and Vance moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlevinKelevra Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 stop trying to cutesy playcall Bryant into a huge play. use him for what he's good at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Just now, BlaqOptic said: There was no jump... Ball literally snapped at the same time that Vance made contact with Burfict. It's piss poor officiating. At least that time they can argue they were trying to protect Ben from Burfict but they need to let it go. Vance moved both times before the snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlevinKelevra Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Just now, warfelg said: No. When a defensive player does that the OL can't move until the ball is snapped or it's a dead play. That's a combo of Pouncey not seeing it and Vance moving. I get what you're saying about the OL. I'm asking specifically about what the REF said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaqOptic Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 1 minute ago, warfelg said: Vance moved both times before the snap. There is literally no way you can say Vance moved before the snap the second time. Pouncey literally has the ball in Ben's hands as Burfict makes contact with Vance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Just now, SlevinKelevra said: I get what you're saying about the OL. I'm asking specifically about what the REF said Oh, unimpeded neutral zone means he went across it with no one touching him. Vance waited until they were across the line to move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livewire Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaqOptic Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Needed to punch that in. A 3 and out would be nice here to try and get some more points on the board before the half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 1 minute ago, BlaqOptic said: There is literally no way you can say Vance moved before the snap the second time. Pouncey literally has the ball in Ben's hands as Burfict makes contact with Vance. It was easy to see. Vance was coming out of his stance before the ball moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlevinKelevra Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 1 minute ago, warfelg said: Oh, unimpeded neutral zone means he went across it with no one touching him. Vance waited until they were across the line to move. thanks. OK, and how is that different than unabated ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaqOptic Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Just now, warfelg said: It was easy to see. Vance was coming out of his stance before the ball moved. I'll agree with you on the first one but you are unobtrusively wrong about the second one. Ben has the ball in his hand as Vance leave shis stance simultaneously making contact with Burfict as Burfict initiates the conact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Just now, SlevinKelevra said: thanks. OK, and how is that different than unabated ? No one moves and no one touches him. Problem is ref's use them interchangably when they shouldn't. Unimpeded (at least with ref's I've dealt with coaching) means they just crossed the line. Inabated means they had a clean shot with no one touching them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlevinKelevra Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Just now, warfelg said: No one moves and no one touches him. Problem is ref's use them interchangably when they shouldn't. Unimpeded (at least with ref's I've dealt with coaching) means they just crossed the line. Inabated means they had a clean shot with no one touching them. gotcha now. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Davis could have had a pick if he weren't Mike Mitchells student. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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