mayanfootball Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Now's the time to get a couple of CB's. The Draft has many good ones. We need to revamp our DB crew. Buffalo lit us up in the playoffs. Cincy beat us. I'm not enamored with Hughes, Baker, or Ward. That's 3 spots and don't forget Matthieu is questionable to re-sign. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, mayanfootball said: Now's the time to get a couple of CB's. The Draft has many good ones. We need to revamp our DB crew. Buffalo lit us up in the playoffs. Cincy beat us. I'm not enamored with Hughes, Baker, or Ward. That's 3 spots and don't forget Matthieu is questionable to re-sign. We need to revamp our DL. Getting another S and/or another CB is fine but not a priority. Even if we re-sign OB Jr, getting a swing OT is a higher priority. If they cannot re-sign Tyrann Manthieu, then getting one safety moves well up the list. That still does not make CB a priority. You may not love Ward, Hughes or Baker, but they are no worse than decent. J Edited February 16, 2022 by onejayhawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanfootball Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, onejayhawk said: We need to revamp our DL. You overlook my last draft. I chose an Edge and a IDL in our 4 rd. mock. Add an LB and CB's and it's a stud defensive minded draft. Whatever offense we need would come via our last picks and thru FA and re-signings. Edited February 17, 2022 by mayanfootball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMAW_KSU Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 23 hours ago, kingseanjohn said: I think we could/should move Jones to S to takeover Mathieu’s role. I think he’d do great as a hybrid S/CB/LB. 5’8” that’s tiny, not small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanfootball Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) 54 minutes ago, EMAW_KSU said: 5’8” that’s tiny, not small. We got Brandon Flowers in 2008-2013 to play for us. He was only 5'9". I remember him with great admiration Edited February 17, 2022 by mayanfootball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 2 hours ago, mayanfootball said: You overlook my last draft. I chose an Edge and a IDL in our 4 rd. mock. Add an LB and CB's and it's a stud defensive minded draft. Whatever offense we need would come via our last picks and thru FA and re-signings. That's not the way the FO is talking about it. They are saying overhaul the DL much like the OL last offseason. So, not the defense so much as the DL, with a nod to other positions. Obviously a LB who can rush the passer is also valid. Off ball LB not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 2 hours ago, EMAW_KSU said: 5’8” that’s tiny, not small. Mathieu is 5'9" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 4 hours ago, onejayhawk said: We need to revamp our DL. Getting another S and/or another CB is fine but not a priority. Even if we re-sign OB Jr, getting a swing OT is a higher priority. If they cannot re-sign Tyrann Manthieu, then getting one safety moves well up the list. That still does not make CB a priority. You may not love Ward, Hughes or Baker, but they are no worse than decent. J As of today, our 2022 S are Thornhill, Anderson, and Key. CB is Sneed, Fenton, Bootle plus Baker as a RFA. I'd argue both positions are high priorities especially considering that the only S or CB under contract in 2023 is Sneed. One DB total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanfootball Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, onejayhawk said: You may not love Ward, Hughes or Baker, but they are no worse than decent. All 3 made no difference against Buffalo. Allen shredded our backfield. This game was not just a one off. Cincinnati beat us in the Championship. A large part of this loss can be attributed to ineffectual DB play. Edited February 17, 2022 by mayanfootball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 38 minutes ago, kingseanjohn said: As of today, our 2022 S are Thornhill, Anderson, and Key. CB is Sneed, Fenton, Bootle plus Baker as a RFA. I'd argue both positions are high priorities especially considering that the only S or CB under contract in 2023 is Sneed. One DB total. Thornhill and Sneed are a hell of a way to start a secondary. Fenton is decent, and Baker was never 100%. It's not great, but re-signing Ward makes a big difference. Again, the priority is the DL where we are likey losing Clark and Reed. 11 minutes ago, mayanfootball said: All 3 made no difference against Buffalo. Allen shredded our backfield. This game was not just a one off. Cincinnati beat us in the Championship. A large part of this loss can be attributed to ineffectual DB play. That's why Allen is one of the elite QB in the NFL. It's not like Mahomes ahs not done the same thing to some really good secondaries. Pass rush matters as well. Cincinnati beat us by holding the offense to three points in the second half. If we get points at the end of the first half, it's a very different game. Jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanfootball Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) Here's a draft that gives us a great Dline to work with: 30. Perrion Winfrey, IDL, Oklahoma; Senior Bowl standout 62. Travis Jones, IDL, UConn; Senior Bowl standout 94. Alontae Taylor, CB, Tennessee 102. Cam Taylor-Britt, CB, Nebraska 133. Jack Sanborn, LB, Wisconsin; longtime fixture in the Badgers defense Edited February 19, 2022 by mayanfootball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanfootball Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, onejayhawk said: If we get points at the end of the first half, it's a very different game. We can all say "coulda, woulda, shoulda". The fact is we lost. Here's what I found looking at the box score of that game: Sneed was the backfield stud of the game; 10 tackles (8 solo), 1 TFL, 1 INT. Matthieu; 5 tackles (5 solo); Ward 5 tackles (4 solo); Fenton 5 tackles (2 solo); Watts 2 tackles (1 solo); Sorensen 1 tackle; Hughes 1 tackle. Baker didn't do spit. I can see who the lightweights were in this game. Just on this boxscore I'd say we could stand to lose Baker, Hughes and Sorensen and they wouldn't be missed. Replace them immediately. Edited February 17, 2022 by mayanfootball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGold Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 22 hours ago, mayanfootball said: We can all say "coulda, woulda, shoulda". The fact is we lost. Here's what I found looking at the box score of that game: Sneed was the backfield stud of the game; 10 tackles (8 solo), 1 TFL, 1 INT. Matthieu; 5 tackles (5 solo); Ward 5 tackles (4 solo); Fenton 5 tackles (2 solo); Watts 2 tackles (1 solo); Sorensen 1 tackle; Hughes 1 tackle. Baker didn't do spit. I can see who the lightweights were in this game. Just on this boxscore I'd say we could stand to lose Baker, Hughes and Sorensen and they wouldn't be missed. Replace them immediately. Considering Baker was inactive, it would actually be impressive if he made the box score….. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 This one went well. There was some serious slippage that we could use to advantage, eg the first pick. I was torn at pick #2, since Raimann was also on the board. Fortunately, there was a solid OT project later. 30: R1 P30 DL Perrion Winfrey - Oklahoma 62: R2 P30 EDGE Nik Bonitto - Oklahoma 94: R3 P30 LB Damone Clark - LSU 103: R3 P39 WR Calvin Austin III - Memphis 134: R4 P30 OT Spencer Burford - UTSA This one is just for fun. It's using the Chiefs' Kingdom list. Fan sites should not do rankings. 30: R1 P30 EDGE David Ojabo - Michigan 62: R2 P30 DL Perrion Winfrey - Oklahoma 94: R3 P30 LB Chad Muma - Wyoming 103: R3 P39 WR Jalen Tolbert - S. Alabama 134: R4 P30 RB Jerrion Ealy - Ole Miss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanfootball Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/17/2022 at 9:34 PM, RedGold said: Considering Baker was inactive, it would actually be impressive if he made the box score….. "Inactive" says it all. Nix him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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