Nnivolcm Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 TEs are drive killers for the Lions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nnivolcm Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 There's that too passive HC again. Going for it on 4th instead of taking the easy lead. Hope it doesn't bite us in the arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionized Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Well there is that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nnivolcm Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 10 hours ago, Rockcity2 said: Gonna have to take some chances in this one does Caldwell have the balls... I'd love for you to address this comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockcity2 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 5 hours ago, Nnivolcm said: I'd love for you to address this comment. I wasn't talking about 4th downs again...especially in that situation.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy1609 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 maybe we should have used ZZ and Riddick more last night, we moved the ball when Theo was in the game. great job overall by our D tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockcity2 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Ameer is just not good . If it were me I'd definitely be looking for a rb to trade for. I'd start Theo and play Washington..cut ZZ. Get some new blood. Shoot I'd rather Agnew at rb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetDownandDirty Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I wouldn’t cut ZZ. If you remember, last year he moved the ball better than anyone this year & got the ball in the end zone quite a few times in the Red Zone. As far as i’m Concerned, why did they sit ZZ last night. I guarantee he would have gotten us a TD last night on one of those drives. Draft a big downhill RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimbaWho Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Coach lost it for the team really in the 3rd quarter. Both teams played badly and had tough sledding up hill against eachother, one coach left points on the board in an attempt to gain a bigger lead instead of just taking a lead late in the game. Basically he tried for a bigger advantage and failed which lost the Lions all advantages they had in the game at that point. Even without getting into the endzone Lions had a chance to win that game and the Coach/coaches basically took that opportunity away in the 3rd with a full quarter to play. Honestly, no one can really explain to my why it's a bad idea to take the lead, vs going for a bigger lead with a chance to not gain the lead at all.(Which is what happened) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theuntouchable Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 On 10/30/2017 at 12:09 PM, SimbaWho said: Coach lost it for the team really in the 3rd quarter. Both teams played badly and had tough sledding up hill against eachother, one coach left points on the board in an attempt to gain a bigger lead instead of just taking a lead late in the game. Basically he tried for a bigger advantage and failed which lost the Lions all advantages they had in the game at that point. Even without getting into the endzone Lions had a chance to win that game and the Coach/coaches basically took that opportunity away in the 3rd with a full quarter to play. Honestly, no one can really explain to my why it's a bad idea to take the lead, vs going for a bigger lead with a chance to not gain the lead at all.(Which is what happened) I blame it more on execution and play call than making that call. The reason it looks bad is because the defense gave up a 97 yard reception for a TD right after that. if we're in 1st and goal and can't get a TD with 4 plays, we don't deserve to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimbaWho Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 2 hours ago, theuntouchable said: I blame it more on execution and play call than making that call. The reason it looks bad is because the defense gave up a 97 yard reception for a TD right after that. if we're in 1st and goal and can't get a TD with 4 plays, we don't deserve to win. Nah, see your point is lost... We did deserve to win, we just didn't take the lead when we had the chance and paid for it sorely because they made a huge play after, we couldn't just do what was right and take the points and lead while we're behind in a close game. You don't decided with 5 mins in the third quarter down by 1 point that this is the drive your going to live/die on by going for it. If you can't score in 4 plays like you said, why have confidence in pinning them back to get a short field that you can't score on anyways... while your still behind... by one? He got greedy, and really, really paid for it. You can say all you want we didn't deserve to win, but if the Lions just took all there FG's that was given to them, they'd of won that game without scoring a TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theuntouchable Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 40 minutes ago, SimbaWho said: Nah, see your point is lost... We did deserve to win, we just didn't take the lead when we had the chance and paid for it sorely because they made a huge play after, we couldn't just do what was right and take the points and lead while we're behind in a close game. You don't decided with 5 mins in the third quarter down by 1 point that this is the drive your going to live/die on by going for it. If you can't score in 4 plays like you said, why have confidence in pinning them back to get a short field that you can't score on anyways... while your still behind... by one? He got greedy, and really, really paid for it. You can say all you want we didn't deserve to win, but if the Lions just took all there FG's that was given to them, they'd of won that game without scoring a TD. You can't say that we would have won if we kicked the field goals. If we had kicked the first field goal and taken the lead by a point that would have changed the outcome severely and it's impossible to determine what would have happened. My point isn't lost at all. The playcall and execution was no where near where it should have been. If they score a TD there and get the 2 point then that forces Pittsburgh to have to score a TD just to tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimbaWho Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 It would of been 13-15 Lions with 5 mins in the third. I get it, plenty of game, but what actually happened is vastly different than what actually happened, which was not getting the points or lead and also getting a TD scored on the Lions after the demoralizing stop. Nothing at the point really suggested the WR's where going to get open that tight, or that the RB's could power through and get tough yards. Regardless of how the execution was throughout the game, they where in a position to take a lead late and the coach decided to gamble the lead for a bigger lead and lost and made a big play(the TD) the biggest play of the night. The likely hood of the Lions getting that TD on that fourth down is a very low percentage play compared to taking the lead with that FG. It was a chance to take the lead easily the coach chose a harder play with less success for marginal reward in the game with so much time remaining. They were in the game for a long time, and not taking the points essentially put them out of the game, especially because Steelers scored the drive after. It was the coaches call to go for it, the players are a fault for failing too but mostly blame Caldwell for putting them in that position where the likely hood of success is less than doing it another way and still taking a lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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