NYRaider Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 minute ago, ronjon1990 said: No, stop giving meaningless context. Nobody cares about injuries or coaching or stability or teammates. Those are EXCUSES. WINNERS WIN. LOSERS LOSE. GOOD QBs ELEVATE TRASH AROUND THEM. PERIOD. Play by the rules. Russell Wilson has won throughout his career, we have a 9 year sample size. They were 2-2 before he got hurt early in the Rams game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: Idk. As of this writing, Carr has won more games than Wilson and Roethlisberger. So they're probably bigger losers outside of that historically bad loser Trevor Lawrence. Bums! Bums, I say! Bums all around! They all suck. Losers, the lot of them. Big D!ck Nick is the pinnacle of a winner this year, though! 1.000 in the win column for that LEGEND. And people said nobody would have a perfect season again. Actually, Gardner Minshew probably takes the cake from even Nick. That WINNER is going to finish his perfect season with a 134.7 QB rating 😳! Eat that, Tommy Boy, you're a winner, but nothing will ever be better than a perfect season AND a QBR that high! Given that neither Foles nor Minshew have lost a single game this year, safe to say they're clearly the best winners in the league. Because winners win, losers lose. Can't be a loser at all, even in the slightest, when all you do is W.I.N.! (You know, because screw all other context. That's the rules.) Carr has lost more games then any other starting quarterback in NFL history through 8 seasons. But he's a winner for beating Mullens and Lock? Okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Russell Wilson has won throughout his career, we have a 9 year sample size. They were 2-2 before he got hurt early in the Rams game. If he were still a winner, he would have won. Because winners win. That's how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Carr has lost more games then any other starting quarterback in NFL history through 8 seasons. But he's a winner for beating Mullens and Lock? Okay. Winners win. Losers lose. 🤷🏼♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Just now, ronjon1990 said: If he were still a winner, he would have won. Because winners win. That's how it works. Hard to win when you're injured for most of the season and unable to perform at the same level due to rushing back from injury. Russell Wilson is one of the most successful QB's in NFL history, Carr couldn't hold his jock strap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 minute ago, ronjon1990 said: Winners win. Losers lose. 🤷🏼♂️ That's true, which is why we have never won a playoff game with Carr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Hard to win when you're injured for most of the season and unable to perform at the same level due to rushing back from injury. Russell Wilson is one of the most successful QB's in NFL history, Carr couldn't hold his jock strap. Nope, stop with the excuses. If Wilson were a winner, he would have elevated his team to win. Winners win. Losers lose. Russell Wilson is a loser. Glad we agree. He sucks. Ciara is married to a big, fat LOSER. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 minute ago, ronjon1990 said: Nope, stop with the excuses. If Wilson were a winner, he would have elevated his team to win. Winners win. Losers lose. Russell Wilson is a loser. Glad we agree. He sucks. Ciara is married to a big, fat LOSER. If Carr doesn't get us to the playoffs this year, will you admit he's a loser? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Just now, NYRaider said: If Carr doesn't get us to the playoffs this year, will you admit he's a loser? Are you admitting that Russell Wilson is a bigger loser than Carr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Just now, ronjon1990 said: Are you admitting that Russell Wilson is a bigger loser than Carr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 16 hours ago, NYRaider said: If Derek Carr folds in either of our final two games and fails to reach a playoff game for his 8th consecutive season, then he is the definition of loser, probably the biggest loser in NFL history, right? No far from it. The fact he lasted 8 years in the nfl is a massive accomplishment. I don’t understand how some can’t understand that. you’re going to call Carrs career worse then say JRs? Are you joking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Just now, BackinBlack said: No far from it. The fact he lasted 8 years in the nfl is a massive accomplishment. I don’t understand how some can’t understand that. you’re going to call Carrs career worse then say JRs? Are you joking? He literally has the record for most losses through 8 seasons as a starting QB. No other QB's even make it 8 seasons with 1 franchise if they can't get them over the hump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Just now, NYRaider said: He literally has the record for most losses through 8 seasons as a starting QB. No other QB's even make it 8 seasons with 1 franchise if they can't get them over the hump. Yes but he has the record for most losses because he has started for 8 years. Which is an accomplishment as many QBs don’t last 3. it’s like saying Tom Brady has the most Super Bowl losses. The fact he gets there every year is impressive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 minute ago, BackinBlack said: Yes but he has the record for most losses because he has started for 8 years. Which is an accomplishment as many QBs don’t last 3. it’s like saying Tom Brady has the most Super Bowl losses. The fact he gets there every year is impressive. Most QB's don't last 8 years because competent franchises aren't afraid to move away from average QB's. The Rams and 49ers went to the Super Bowl with Jimmy G/Goff and are moving on from them because they realize they aren't good enough. We're going to extend Carr because he beat a bunch of backup QB's with covid riddled teams at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Most QB's don't last 8 years because competent franchises aren't afraid to move away from average QB's. The Rams and 49ers went to the Super Bowl with Jimmy G/Goff and are moving on from them because they realize they aren't good enough. We're going to extend Carr because he beat a bunch of backup QB's with covid riddled teams at the end of the season. Ok but back to the point, Carr is not the biggest loser because someone out of the league after 3 years would be more of a loser IMO. you holding the fact he played 8 seasons compared to someone who played 3. is like saying Tom Brady has the most Super Bowl losses as a point against him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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