rackcs Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, MWil23 said: I said Team not defense Rack. Deebo is better too and certainly more valuable. Misread and would agree. I still think you guys are severely underrating Warner. 8 minutes ago, wwhickok said: Top 10 at the position, absolutely. Top 10 overall in the NFL, not remotely. Run stopping was the wrong label, you're right, he is a tackling LB. Not a bad thing but by that I mean, he isn't gonna pressure or rush the QB, he isn't a high turnover guy, he will rarely if ever get a sack, etc. He makes his impact by making tackles beyond the line of scrimmage. He is a very good well rounded linebacker linebacker that I would not remotely describe describe as disruptive Bro he's not a pass rusher, he's an off ball linebacker. That's not his role to rush the passer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Scoundrel said: So Micah Very much so 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, Scoundrel said: I'll take those lemons 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, rackcs said: Misread and would agree. I still think you guys are severely underrating Warner. I like him a lot. I think he’s every bit the player Leonard is. He’s just not a Top 10 NFL player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, bcb1213 said: I have Warner as fourth /fifth best lb this year, let alone top ten overall player I'm sure you'll ask so in no particular order Parsons Campbell Leonard Then you run into the Demario Davis, Warner spectrum. I could easily put Warner fourth or fifth. I'm a bit of a Davis mark tho Thompson dislikes you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, rackcs said: Misread and would agree. I still think you guys are severely underrating Warner. Bro he's not a pass rusher, he's an off ball linebacker. That's not his role to rush the passer. I understand that. But there are plenty of guys in this league that can do what he does and also rush the passer. He is not, imo, a top 10 overall NFL player. And when you really consider what that means saying that, It almost sounds stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Rack trade me Warner so I can have he and Micah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Fair or not, in todays NFL, you need to either have EDGE/off ball value or apex/Mike value. He’s got tremendous off ball Mike value but he’s also not a hybrid big nickel either. That’s not his fault at all as he’s still a tremendous 3 down Mike, but in terms of overall value, those other spots are more valuable overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, MWil23 said: Fair or not, in todays NFL, you need to either have EDGE/off ball value or apex/Mike value. He’s got tremendous off ball Mike value but he’s also not a hybrid big nickel either. That’s not his fault at all as he’s still a tremendous 3 down Mike, but in terms of overall value, those other spots are more valuable overall. Can’t wait to add Hamilton to my defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, MWil23 said: Fair or not, in todays NFL, you need to either have EDGE/off ball value or apex/Mike value. He’s got tremendous off ball Mike value but he’s also not a hybrid big nickel either. That’s not his fault at all as he’s still a tremendous 3 down Mike, but in terms of overall value, those other spots are more valuable overall. I’ve been on record saying my claim is not taking into account positional value. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Let's play a game. I want everybody to answer this question for themselves and I want them to be honest with everybody including themselves. Is every single player in the NFL He's a free agent no teams have any players on them you do not have a salary cap and you got 1st dibs to fill out your team. Everybody has to wait on you to make your selections. Who are the 1st 10 players you'd take; in the exact order you'd take them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted February 3, 2022 Author Share Posted February 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, MWil23 said: I think he’s every bit the player Leonard is. Meh. Both tackling machines but in the same span Leonard has far more sacks, INT's and FF's. Leonard is more impactful IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, MD4L said: I’ve been on record saying my claim is not taking into account positional value. Here's my thing and this is just my opinion but Positional value is not the only thing it ignores it also ignores overall talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted February 3, 2022 Author Share Posted February 3, 2022 Warner is really good for a Mormon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) My list 1. Patrick Mahomes 2. TJ Watt 3. Aaron Donald 4. Cam Heyward 5. Jalen Ramsey 6. DeAndre Hopkins 7. Marlon Humphrey 8. Stefon Diggs 9. Micah Parsons 10. Myles Garrett Edited February 3, 2022 by wwhickok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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