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Just now, Scoundrel said:

Robinson was 6’5 330 with 35 inch arms ran in the 4.9’s benched 33 reps at 225 and was a beast on film. I’m not surprised the Rams made that selection.

Fair, but Robinson was a good run blocker, but had a ways to go with pass pro. Even Mayock said that constantly in his coverage. I think he had the boom or bust label the whole time really. He busted.

The Rams took Jason Smith 2 overall like 4 years earlier. Busted out immediately. 

 

Anyways, I spent at least an hour trying to figure out how the Trevor Penning hype train got moving so fast. It's got my mind looking at things a certain way. 

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3 minutes ago, Blue said:

There's a difference between being a jump ball specialist and having to catch a lot of jump balls. Dude got open plenty on his own. I still remember all the nonsense about how "Mike Evans needs to move to tight end because he isn't fast enough to play receiver" and then he ran in the 4.4s at the Combine.

Yeah that's fair. Maybe "deep threat" is a more accurate label. Just Manziel threw some of those even when he didn't win on a streak.

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Just now, Jlash said:

4.53 but even if he wasn't 231 lbs that still would've been plenty fast. We watched him beat Jalen Ramsey on a go route a couple weeks ago at 29.

Coincidentally, if I recall a breakdown of comparable times from either Mayock or Jeremiah, that's the exact time DeAndre Hopkins ran as well. 

The point was the "fastest" guys at the combine don't often go on to do anything. The sweet spot for WR looked like 4.48-4.53

So in my opinion if you hit 4.60 flat or less and I like your tape, I try not to overthink the number too much.

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18 minutes ago, RTTRUTH said:

Coincidentally, if I recall a breakdown of comparable times from either Mayock or Jeremiah, that's the exact time DeAndre Hopkins ran as well. 

The point was the "fastest" guys at the combine don't often go on to do anything. The sweet spot for WR looked like 4.48-4.53

So in my opinion if you hit 4.60 flat or less and I like your tape, I try not to overthink the number too much.

Kupp ran a 4.62

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21 hours ago, wwhickok said:

Quarterback
10. Kyler Murray

Overall, fair. Although putting him behind Watson who may never play again is……yikes. 

Running Back
12. David Montgomery

It would be a major upset if McCaffrey isn’t on my roster but he isn’t there right now, so fair. With Caff, I would expect to shoot up these rankings

Wide Receiver
12. Raleigh

Ive got the best WR in the game, an injured Bobby Trees and nothing much else. Hard to argue here. Got some work to do this offseason. 

Tight End
6. Raleigh

Andrews is a top 3 TE in the league. Hard to see why, even with no depth behind him, how I am this low. 


Offensive Tackle
8. Raleigh

Tunsil is the hot button issue here. Mailata is a very good T @BlueJawaan Taylor is a serviceable swing. If Tunsil returns to form, this is a better group. But the detractions against him are fair. 

Offensive Guard
6. Raleigh

Norwell? 

Center
7. Raleigh

BDL legend Mitch Morse accepts nothing but 1st place

Edge
16. Raleigh

No argument here. Gotta rebuild that room. 

INT
10. Raleigh

Im not looking at the other rosters right now but hard to think the depth I have in this group that they wouldn’t be higher. No Superstars but 4-5 really good players. 

Linebacker
11. Raleigh

Darius Leonard alone gets me at 11? I’ll take it 

Cornerback
5. Raleigh

Probably my best position group, so agreed. 

Safety
9. Raleigh

that seems right. No superstars but 4 good NFL starters
 

Sitting in a parking lot while my daughter is at Girl Scouts. So I decided to react to my rankings. Overall nothing that I find unreasonable. Good work @wwhickok

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11 minutes ago, Scoundrel said:

Kupp ran a 4.62

I mean there’s exceptions to everything. 
I love Kupp, loved him as a prospect. But I also think he’s in possibly the single best situation he could’ve landed in. Like that team or maybe the Saints were his ideal landing spots.

 

Had he gone to the Jets or Bears would we be talking about him so highly? Let’s debate...

 

But I want to tell one funny story I won’t forget. So me and another guy I know well on another site have been running mocks for over a decade in the off-season. The year Kupp was a prospect, somebody drafted him in I can’t remember if it was the second or third round, but one new guy threw sort of a hissy fit and stormed out of the mock saying “no one will take some average player from Eastern Washington that high.” Like he was so mad about it, or found it so inconceivable that he quit. And we all know what happened after that.

 

We had a similar experience the year Todd Gurley was drafted and someone took him in the first round “with a knee injury.” Some newb quit over that too.

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3 minutes ago, Scoundrel said:

We can ask this about any receiver in the league...

I took Kupp here in the early irl 3rd (our 5th)

True. But there’s still a small difference between “succeeding” where you’re at and reaching the level Kupp has. That takes some serendipity. 

Pre-RL draft. That’s a home run!

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