KingOfNewYork Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 6 hours ago, xrade said: For a team without all the holes we have - yes. We need starters, not future replacements. Not yet. They tend to fill those holes via free agency. We have to see what this team looks like going into draft day before we assume a hole is a hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrade Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 38 minutes ago, KingOfNewYork said: They tend to fill those holes via free agency And the track record there has been spotty at best. In fact, McGovern and Fant may be JD’s most productive FA’s last year and they are the ones some people want to get a backups for in the first round. Realizing we can’t fill all the holes via FA, we need to draft starters where we can and worry about future replacements once we have starters in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, xrade said: And the track record there has been spotty at best. In fact, McGovern and Fant may be JD’s most productive FA’s last year and they are the ones some people want to get a backups for in the first round. Realizing we can’t fill all the holes via FA, we need to draft starters where we can and worry about future replacements once we have starters in place. They’re going to be gone soon. If JD extends them this off-season that’s one thing but as of right now we don’t have a starting Center and only 1 OT for 2023. Douglas does it the right way, you’re playing Madden respectfully. It doesn’t work that way. Let’s say we draft Linderbaum for example, we cut McGovern(none of his salary is guaranteed) and open up some cap space and grab someone at another position with the $9M we save. Not saying that happens but that’s how you reallocate your resources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrade Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Just now, KingOfNewYork said: Douglas does it the right way, you’re playing Madden respectfully. It doesn’t work that way. Uh-huh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 hour ago, xrade said: Uh-huh. Lol. Well good day to you as well. Rams or Bengals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrade Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, KingOfNewYork said: Lol. Well good day to you as well. Rams or Bengals? Want the Bengals but I also want to see Stafford win. But more than anything, I want a good game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, xrade said: Want the Bengals but I also want to see Stafford win. But more than anything, I want a good game. Def should be a good game unless the Rams DL just wrecks the Bengals OL. Bengals short passing game is crucial, if Burrow can 3 step drop them to death then it’s gonna be a helluva game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.O Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Joe Shiesty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsandI Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Let's hope that Q actually watched last night's 2nd half clutching performance by Aaron Donald. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen420 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Just now, JetsandI said: Let's hope that Q actually watched last night's 2nd half clutching performance by Aaron Donald. Q will never be even close to half the player Donald is. Q is what he is at this point. A slightly above average player. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsandI Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Just now, GangGreen420 said: Q will never be even close to half the player Donald is. Q is what he is at this point. A slightly above average player. You never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, JetsandI said: You never know. I’d definitely know which way I’d bet though. Q in 3 seasons has 15.5 sacks. That averages 5 a season. Donald averages 12.5/season and he gets doubled teamed every play nearly. Through 3 seasons he also had 28 sacks and those were his 3 worst years of his career. Since then he’s averaging 14.5/ season. With 1 year having 20.5 also while getting double teamed. Lets set the bar at let’s hope Q can get to double digit sacks one day. JFM next to him with Lawson and another Edge can only help I know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doumeyer Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 The FA period starts March 16 at 4 PM, as of now the five teams in the best shape are all AFL teams Miami 66 million Need more offensive help LA Charges 62 million Need defensive help Jacksonville 61 million dire need offensive help CINN Bengals 56 millions It will be all about the O line with this team NY Jets 47 millions probably defensive help These figures are before any cuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted February 15, 2022 Author Share Posted February 15, 2022 Why isn't cutting Rankins not being big time considered? Cutting him would save about 5mill. For me I'd rather us resign Foley who is a year younger and move JFM inside as well. Roll with Q, Foley, JFM and Marshall at DT. Get an edge to pair with Lawson in the draft hopefully. From a cap perspective... Cutting GVR and Griffin saves roughly 6.5mill. For me that's about what we should give Berrios. We cut Rankins and assume Foley will command about 8mill. Us cutting guys like Cashman, Nacua, Muffatt, Phillips, Aamia, etc. each save close to 1mill each. Making that we can in essence resign Berrios and Foley (even LDT for cheap) with just roster cuts. Still allowing us to have that 50mill figure to spend on outside FAs. Which in reality is more like 30-35mill to spend bc of all of our top picks in the draft. Still 35mill to spend after resigning our own FAs is still a good amount of cap. Ideally I'd like to see us attack TE, S and LB in FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Bobby816 said: Why isn't cutting Rankins not being big time considered? Cutting him would save about 5mill. For me I'd rather us resign Foley who is a year younger and move JFM inside as well. Roll with Q, Foley, JFM and Marshall at DT. Get an edge to pair with Lawson in the draft hopefully. From a cap perspective... Cutting GVR and Griffin saves roughly 6.5mill. For me that's about what we should give Berrios. We cut Rankins and assume Foley will command about 8mill. Us cutting guys like Cashman, Nacua, Muffatt, Phillips, Aamia, etc. each save close to 1mill each. Making that we can in essence resign Berrios and Foley (even LDT for cheap) with just roster cuts. Still allowing us to have that 50mill figure to spend on outside FAs. Which in reality is more like 30-35mill to spend bc of all of our top picks in the draft. Still 35mill to spend after resigning our own FAs is still a good amount of cap. Ideally I'd like to see us attack TE, S and LB in FA. A lot of our guys don’t have guaranteed money on their deals so we don’t have to cut them until we have to cut them essentially. If you need the cap space you can pivot and release a guy if not you keep him going into camp(you don’t know what kind of injuries can happen) and let things play out. Only free agents we probably have to negotiate with are Berrios and Fatukasi. I personally think Fatukasi ends up with the Chargers and Berrios returns on a 5M per deal(he basically takes Crowder’s contract number/role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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