mtmmike Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 The NFL is pretty much confirmed just what said right now. This team has 3 players signed long term Myles Chubb Deshaun Greedy contract comes up next year Teller offensive line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 21 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: The difference you need to remember Mike is that Baker underperformed with arguably one of the most talented offenses in the NFL. 3 All Pro/Pro Bowl offensive linemen, the best rushing attack in the NFL along with guys like OBJ/Landry. In 2 years the best he ever looked was 'good' not great. Watson has played with scrubs comparatively and a lot of times was carrying a terrible group of offensive players. The best RB he has ever had was Lamar Miller (lol) along with a OL group that was among the worst in the NFL for years. The only threat he ever had was Hopkins and 1 season of Cooks. So this isnt really a apples to apples comparison. Baker underachieved with a top 5 offensive roster around him and Watson overachieved with a bottom 5 offense around him. You can look at raw numbers all you want, but the situations are not equal between the two. Simple Mayfield was on a team that won 12 games Prediction Berry's 3rd year he will not win 13 games. That is everything in a Nutshell To paraphrase a hof head coach Winning is not everything it is the only thing Al Davis just win baby. Now are you saying right now the the Deshaun Browns win 13 games This is why I am frustrated By good morning Just remember I wanted to sign Cousins then trade the first overall pick for 3 number 1s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 27 minutes ago, ET80 said: Ok, let's reset here. 1. Despite the last few pages, I genuinely like you. I got out of pocket with some of the stuff I said, and that's my bad. If there's ever an opportunity, I'll buy you a beer and we can settle that over a pint. My bad, genuinely sorry. 2. I don't disagree with you on Mayfield + cap space + 3 FRPs > Watson. We're not arguing that, sir; I agree the Browns overreacted on this one. As someone who follows the Texans, it was too much squeeze for the juice that Watson brings. 3. My argument is that Wins are not a QB stat - doesn't matter the QB, wins are a team stat. Teams win football games, because football is a team sport. In your own words - why should wins be attributed to QBs? If the Browns go 13-4 and Myles Garrett is DPOY with 25 sacks and Watson throws for 3500 yards and 18 TDs with 10 INTs, is it fair to say Watson won 13 games? No worries Had many a good challenges Welcome to the top 5 debate of all time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, mtmmike said: No worries Had many a good challenges Welcome to the top 5 debate of all time. Excellent point My point Mayfield put 48 on Pittsburgh My biggest problem with the Browns is that What members of that team have we signed long term Myles Teller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 37 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Most people have normal things like a dog and cat, ya redneck Wait til you hear about my pet amoeba 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: The difference you need to remember Mike is that Baker underperformed with arguably one of the most talented offenses in the NFL. 3 All Pro/Pro Bowl offensive linemen, the best rushing attack in the NFL along with guys like OBJ/Landry. In 2 years the best he ever looked was 'good' not great. Watson has played with scrubs comparatively and a lot of times was carrying a terrible group of offensive players. The best RB he has ever had was Lamar Miller (lol) along with a OL group that was among the worst in the NFL for years. The only threat he ever had was Hopkins and 1 season of Cooks. So this isnt really a apples to apples comparison. Baker underachieved with a top 5 offensive roster around him and Watson overachieved with a bottom 5 offense around him. You can look at raw numbers all you want, but the situations are not equal between the two. Excellent He played in the easiest conference Point 2 who was on indy line when he lost by 14 Kc line while good is not close to Pittsburgh or not close to a Ravens line that can draft Ojabo,or Jordan Davis 3rd point this counteracts what you say He went to a team that was already playoff ready and the team has gone Backward under his watch. 4th point I believe he has had a wr core his entire time of Duke Johnson Fuller Cooks Plus Johnson for multiple years while playing in a much easier conference 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 3 hours ago, ronjon1990 said: I'm jealous. I have a ram and a sheep. No goat...wtf Well I'm 6 years old and my parents bought me the deluxe emoji pack. Sorry you're neglected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 minute ago, NudeTayne said: Well I'm 6 years old and my parents bought me the deluxe emoji pack. Sorry you're neglected. #stillwaitingonthatgameboycolor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: #stillwaitingonthatgameboycolor Tayne Christmas: @ronjon1990at Christmas: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheatieMan Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) If Watson is signed before or after suspension, does the base salary for games he misses count against this year’s cap hit? Does, 6 game suspension per day, deduct from Browns 2022 salary cap? Edited April 13, 2022 by WheatieMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 hour ago, WheatieMan said: If Watson is signed before or after suspension, does the base salary for games he misses count against this year’s cap hit? Does, 6 game suspension per day, deduct from Browns 2022 salary cap? IIRC the way that his deal is structured, his base salary in year 1 is just $1M so he doesn't lose out on much if he is suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 24 minutes ago, NYRaider said: IIRC the way that his deal is structured, his base salary in year 1 is just $1M so he doesn't lose out on much if he is suspended. Enablers gonna enable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 hour ago, NudeTayne said: Enablers gonna enable Dude was dead set on being a Falcon until you guys gave him a deal he couldn't refuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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