kingseanjohn Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 2 hours ago, MathMan said: Here are my thoughts on the plan that can maximize the civ winning change. so I'm clear. I'm also the obvious hit tonight, so I'll take myself out of the ratio. Vig, at some point, if you are to be the lynch, you may have to claim. DONT CLAIM UNLESS YOU ARE ASSURED TO BE THE LYNCH BC OF THE SUICDER the rest of the crew is 4-2 ratio civ:mafia. We take advantage of the double lynch to lynch 2 dudes. Vig has 1 hit, which is guaranteed to go through bc civ hits come before mafia. so....we lynch 2 guys. Make it a point to do so. And vig hits 1. That means even if we only hit 1 out of the 3...... the ratio would be 2-1. We need those 3 chances to kill the non-suicide dude. because if we kill the normal mafia, the suicide dude cant blow up. bcb. We know that you aren't the vig, so you are a safe lynch. Who should the other one be, town? I'm thinking ksj is potentially mafia. I'm a boring normal guest. And I want to eat some turkey. Tyty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Guys, nobody else claim, okay. Gives mafia a chance to take out the vig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 5 hours ago, MathMan said: Here are my thoughts on the plan that can maximize the civ winning change. so I'm clear. I'm also the obvious hit tonight, so I'll take myself out of the ratio. Vig, at some point, if you are to be the lynch, you may have to claim. DONT CLAIM UNLESS YOU ARE ASSURED TO BE THE LYNCH BC OF THE SUICDER the rest of the crew is 4-2 ratio civ:mafia. We take advantage of the double lynch to lynch 2 dudes. Vig has 1 hit, which is guaranteed to go through bc civ hits come before mafia. so....we lynch 2 guys. Make it a point to do so. And vig hits 1. That means even if we only hit 1 out of the 3...... the ratio would be 2-1. We need those 3 chances to kill the non-suicide dude. because if we kill the normal mafia, the suicide dude cant blow up. bcb. We know that you aren't the vig, so you are a safe lynch. Who should the other one be, town? I'm thinking ksj is potentially mafia. This is the most moronic thing. You realize the mafia can make two hits in one night to make it game over with your plan here right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 wait, wait, wait so the one real tool that is universal to mafia is that the town has the numbers and the main method of getting rid of mafia is through lynches. yet we willingly and knowingly choose to AVOID a lynch? and guarantee (in a game where the mafia already has a favorable numbers advantage) that the mafia gets a free night and their free hit? can someone explain the rationale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 11 hours ago, MathMan said: a surprise lynch may catch the suicide offguard. If they are lynched, they can't use their power. Something to keep in mind, everyone. Bingo This is what should have happened last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 11 hours ago, bcb1213 said: You can lynch me if you want. I'm vanilla so you're not losing much eww.. bcb shows up last minute, after being called on, and claiming a non-ccable role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 10 hours ago, MathMan said: Its better to "No Lynch" today. With a No-lynch 7-2 5-2 3-2 with a mislynch 6-2 4-2 2-2 We don't lose anything by nolynching you left out "with a correct lynch" 5-1 other than a 1 shot item, lynching is our only tool. why would we throw that tool away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 10 hours ago, Whicker said: I'm for the no lynch. why are our proven towns supporting (and suggesting) a non-town action? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 10 hours ago, Tyty said: Mafia is gonna take out one civ so this puts us at a disadvantage doing nothing when one of these guys could be maf. yep should have stuck to your guns. you were the only voice of reason here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 9 hours ago, MathMan said: I'm going to disappear for a little bit. I expect the rest of the town will communicate and give their thoughts on the game so far. Why was Whicker hit? Who do you find suspicious? Should the vig make a hit tonight? @kingseanjohn why did you find me suspicious? Whicker hit doesn't make a lot of sense. He seemed like a guy who could have been a scapegoat N2 or N3, weird for the mafia to take that guy out and take that lynch option off the table. The entire untouchable interaction with malf seemed odd to me. Mookie, KSJ, and BCB are all so under the radar that I would expect at least one of them to be mafia. I really didn't like BCBs posts right around nighttime last night. I have a civ read on tyty, and malf is cleared. Pretty sure that covers my general reads on everybody. There are two schools of thought with the 1 time hit mechanic. Malf's suggestion is one, where you use it in conjunction with the double lynch, and maximize tonight's odds of hitting a mafia. My general tactic when I have a 1 use power is that I hold out as long as possible. There is a risk of being killed without using it, but the longer you go, generally, the better your odds are of using it right. I think I would lean towards saving it to be honest unless they have a strong read or if they are forced to claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 7 hours ago, kingseanjohn said: Felt like you were playing your non-civ game answer the other questions please I despise when people take the easy way out and try to avoid giving up their actual thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 11 hours ago, domepatrol91 said: If there is a tie heading into Night Two, there will be no overtime. Instead, two players will be thrown into the oven. can you clarify the second statement? is it "the two tied players"? what if there is a 3 way tie, do all 3 die? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 4 hours ago, bcb1213 said: This is the most moronic thing. You realize the mafia can make two hits in one night to make it game over with your plan here right If we lynch the normal mafia, the suicider can no longer suicide. That plan would maximize the chances of killing the normal mafia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 minute ago, MathMan said: If we lynch the normal mafia, the suicider can no longer suicide. That plan would maximize the chances of killing the normal mafia. I agree that maximizing lynches is our best bet, which is why I am still so baffled about last night's decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 42 minutes ago, Tk3 said: yep should have stuck to your guns. you were the only voice of reason here Right, I understand. But what I said was I wasn't sure if it would be a good idea cause it might make me look like a mafia saving another mafia maybe if I flip off x and vote for y and then learn y is civ. I do have a definite feeling one of those two that were tied left is mafia and since mathman is cleared and lead the charge on that it would've been easy enough for actual mafia to just say yeah we will roll with that. Mathman said it was all informational but I feel like mafia were probably all in chatcey celebrating over a free pass. For this reason I'm going to go after untouch for following mathman there, rather than the two tied vote getters because both of those are more up in the air than untouch is for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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