jebrick Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 9 hours ago, 43M said: Yeah...I honestly dont get this love for Fields. Is he overall better than what we have now? Sure, but thats saying very little. I don't believe he is a better pure passer than Kenny. Not that he is necessarily worse, but I certainly dont believe he can beat teams with his arm. Fields is a gimmick QB, and they never work out. He is merely a QB that keeps us hovering around the middle.....at best. The offense would likely operate under two extremes....the exciting games where we get 300 rush yards vs teams that dont know how to defend against mobile QBs OR the endlessly frustrating games that force him to win with his arm, and in most cases, he absolutely cannot do that. Again....not opposed to giving up a 4th or so....but the suggestions of giving up 2nd rd value for him are absolutely ridiculous IMO. The case for Fields is Tomlin likes him. Wanted to trade up for him. Just think what he could do with the Steeler playbook!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlon Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 9 hours ago, jebrick said: The case for Fields is Tomlin likes him. Wanted to trade up for him. Just think what he could do with the Steeler playbook!! Awesome, Tomlin’s personnel insight has been so great so far… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 10 hours ago, jebrick said: The case for Fields is Tomlin likes him. Wanted to trade up for him. Just think what he could do with the Steeler playbook!! He could start by tossing it in the garbage, a nice pass over the recycling bin and right to the trash. Not worthy of recycling. Not even worth bedding material in the doghouse either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) https://x.com/steelersdepot/status/1738235091456012726?s=46&t=xd5QJpZuXv2k7qD0xqd6aA Edit: The rumor tied to this that I heard was that towards the end of this, ARII was the one behind the push for doing everything to extend Bens career. At various points Tomlin had been enamored with Jackson, Mahomes, Fields, Allen, Hurts, and a few others. He was also a bigger fan of Etienne the player than Najee the player. There was OL/DL that he liked at certain points but the “BPA” theory pushes others up the charts over guys he preferred. Some of his frustrations is stemming from the fact that the internal push to try to prolong Bens career was at odds with his build for beyond, and that his input was “nerfed” to you get a say in what RB we take and things like that. Edited December 23, 2023 by warfelg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigben07MVP Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 3 hours ago, warfelg said: https://x.com/steelersdepot/status/1738235091456012726?s=46&t=xd5QJpZuXv2k7qD0xqd6aA Edit: The rumor tied to this that I heard was that towards the end of this, ARII was the one behind the push for doing everything to extend Bens career. At various points Tomlin had been enamored with Jackson, Mahomes, Fields, Allen, Hurts, and a few others. He was also a bigger fan of Etienne the player than Najee the player. There was OL/DL that he liked at certain points but the “BPA” theory pushes others up the charts over guys he preferred. Some of his frustrations is stemming from the fact that the internal push to try to prolong Bens career was at odds with his build for beyond, and that his input was “nerfed” to you get a say in what RB we take and things like that. Source? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFF Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 22 minutes ago, bigben07MVP said: Source? From his profile picture… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 hour ago, bigben07MVP said: Source? I’ve got a family member that works in the organization with decent access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcash4 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, warfelg said: I’ve got a family member that works in the organization with decent access. Just like the LSU guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 Bold prediction: If Tomlin isn’t here beyond this year I would not be shocked to hear that people in the organization are high on Teryl Austin as HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 24 minutes ago, warfelg said: Bold prediction: If Tomlin isn’t here beyond this year I would not be shocked to hear that people in the organization are high on Teryl Austin as HC. steelers twitter would have a meltdown lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, August4th said: steelers twitter would have a meltdown lmao I honestly think I would for anyone other than Ben Johnson. Apparently his agent tried to shoot down the $15MM+ rumor. I honestly do think that rumor was purely to scare off Carolina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, warfelg said: I honestly think I would for anyone other than Ben Johnson. Apparently his agent tried to shoot down the $15MM+ rumor. I honestly do think that rumor was purely to scare off Carolina. not a fan of the potential coaches available? I see some intriguing names Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, August4th said: not a fan of the potential coaches available? I see some intriguing names Miss typed. Trying to cook. I can see it melt down if anyone other than Ben Johnson is the favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zflairway Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Dcash4 said: Just like the LSU guy. Daniels and Williams will go 1-2. Daniels is kind of like Dobbs with his legs. Really long and wiry, which to say he's also a bit thin, and he also runs high, but he's most dangerous with his legs. Not explosive like LaMar more agile like Randall Cunningham and elusive with good long speed call it 4.4. His arm slot from where he throws, he throws a bunch of lollipops on deep balls, which should be a cause for concern with NFL DB's, and his overall arm velocity is like 90 MPH - nothing special. Given his legs, and the gimmicky or deception of modern day OC's, he will surpass or should surpass the nothing special guys like Jalen Hurts and guys of this nature. Steamrolling the Fields of the day. I can drop down into Jordan Travis territory at like 93 MPH on the gun and with his stable nature and foundation and pure pocket presence and ability to withstand and athletic enough to evade, not obliterate opponents, have a more pure passing threat that will over time hang up over a full season. And I do that at the top of the 2nd round as opposed to the top pick. That's a bit better value and you pick up much value with comparable trade offs. Seeing this QB class makes you feel bad for the Carolina's of the world, and to a lesser extent Houston, who didn't quite get a franchise guy at the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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