bcb1213 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Blue said: I would genuinely like to see how you rank BDL defensive lines and secondaries, because I think you would be surprised at just how bad a defensive line featuring Emmanuel Ogbah, Armon Watts, Carlos Dunlap, and Davon Hamilton really is relative to everyone else. I don't think even you could argue against it as a top 16 BDL defense though..... Edited November 8, 2022 by bcb1213 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 56 minutes ago, Blue said: Sack numbers are just the easiest measure. You want to focus on tackles for loss? Your starting DL have 8 TFLs this season. Jonathan Allen alone has 11. The writeup explicitly says "motioning Aaron Jones into the slot regularly to give us an additional receiver." For the most part, you're trying to shut down Rhamondre Stevenson in the run game. Perryman focusing on the run is just going to make things easier for Mahomes off play-action then. He's covering one of Stevenson or Jones, near as I can tell, and either one is a mismatch in my favor. No, he's bad because he's Fabian Moreau, but the fact that he's only started four games means A) his IRL team clearly doesn't think he's a better player than their other options and B) his coverage numbers are skewed because you can't get thrown at if you're not on the field. Sutton was top 10 in yardage prior to the past three weeks and his numbers have only gone down because opponents realized Russell Wilson couldn't do anything if they took away deep shots to Sutton. But failing to recognize a player's ability outside of their IRL situation is nothing knew for BDL. Too far by what, pointing out that the opposing defense is bad? They can't win at the line of scrimmage or cover receivers. It's a bunch of role players forced to play way more snaps than they should be. If I were PR, I would be looking to replace eight of the starters from this week's defense before the start of next season. I would bet you don't even know what IRL teams their starting defensive linemen play for without looking them up. Edge: Emmanuel Ogbah - Miami Dolphins DT: DaVon Hamilton -- Jacksonville Jaguars DT: Armon Watts - Chicago Bears Edge: Carlos Dunlap - Kansas City Chiefs That is without looking them up. Im pretty good at knowing who is on whose team for the most, especially when theyve been in the leagur a while or like Ogbah, play next to Raekwon Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 51 minutes ago, Blue said: I would genuinely like to see how you rank BDL defensive lines and secondaries, because I think you would be surprised at just how bad a defensive line featuring Emmanuel Ogbah, Armon Watts, Carlos Dunlap, and Davon Hamilton really is relative to everyone else. Im not making an arguement for it being great. I am making an arguement for yhe reality that you have a tendency to think everyones team sucks when they play you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, wwhickok said: Im not making an arguement for it being great. I am making an arguement for yhe reality that you have a tendency to think everyones team sucks when they play you. Look, everybody looks like a peewee team when they're going up against a kaiju Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, Blue said: Look, everybody looks like a peewee team when they're going up against a kaiju I mean, i think your team is a bit overrated, by you, so theres that lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, wwhickok said: I mean, i think your team is a bit overrated, by you, so theres that lol I know what you meant, I think you missed the joke about the kaiju there 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAOJoe Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Blue said: I know what you meant, I think you missed the joke about the kaiju there Mothra coming in with the air game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 44 minutes ago, Blue said: I know what you meant, I think you missed the joke about the kaiju there No i didnt. But i didnt want to slap you in thr face with my Godzilla. Im a modest man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 I'm not really sure how not making substitutions keeps the clock running? If you come down in bounds the clock runs whether you sub or not. I'm also unclear what your defensive plan on Jones is. Did that get cut off or did you just forget to do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, bcb1213 said: I'm not really sure how not making substitutions keeps the clock running? If you come down in bounds the clock runs whether you sub or not. I'm also unclear what your defensive plan on Jones is. Did that get cut off or did you just forget to do it? As far as the clock running thing I don't get at he is gonna run No huddle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 minute ago, wwhickok said: As far as the clock running thing I don't get at he is gonna run No huddle you can run no huddle, get to the line and let the clock run still. That is a thing, but the substitution thing is an odd statement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, bcb1213 said: I'm not really sure how not making substitutions keeps the clock running? If you come down in bounds the clock runs whether you sub or not. I'm also unclear what your defensive plan on Jones is. Did that get cut off or did you just forget to do it? 3 minutes ago, wwhickok said: As far as the clock running thing I don't get at he is gonna run No huddle 1 minute ago, bcb1213 said: you can run no huddle, get to the line and let the clock run still. That is a thing, but the substitution thing is an odd statement Quote To help keep the clock running throughout the game we won't be making substitutions on offense during drives. We will also playing a hurry up offense to keep Cancun's defense on the field. One of my biggest pet peeves that seems minor but isn't is that we've resorted to "hurry up" and "no huddle" as the same thing/interchangeably, and it's definitely not at all. The way this is written, that means he's not substituting and also running play after play quickly, which is drastically different from no huddle, which can control the tempo and not allow personnel changes and can be used to hurry up or to stall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 26 minutes ago, MWil23 said: One of my biggest pet peeves that seems minor but isn't is that we've resorted to "hurry up" and "no huddle" as the same thing/interchangeably, and it's definitely not at all. The way this is written, that means he's not substituting and also running play after play quickly, which is drastically different from no huddle, which can control the tempo and not allow personnel changes and can be used to hurry up or to stall. 1st of all I agree with you on the difference between no huddle and hurry up. Secondly you're right I used the wrong phrase because what you are describing is how I interpret what he is doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, wwhickok said: 1st of all I agree with you on the difference between no huddle and hurry up. Secondly you're right I used the wrong phrase because what you are describing is how I interpret what he is doing. Yeah my comment was not meant to be directed at you specifically as much as you can't run no substitution, control the clock, and a hurry up all at the same time. It's literally not possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 51 minutes ago, MWil23 said: One of my biggest pet peeves that seems minor but isn't is that we've resorted to "hurry up" and "no huddle" as the same thing/interchangeably, and it's definitely not at all. The way this is written, that means he's not substituting and also running play after play quickly, which is drastically different from no huddle, which can control the tempo and not allow personnel changes and can be used to hurry up or to stall. I generally give people a pass on this as i don't expect everyone to be football terminology geniuses and can make assumptions on what I think they meant unless it's just totally out of left field (i almost always comment on those instances...lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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