Scoundrel Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 1 minute ago, SirA1 said: It's not for new contracts. Ridley is also a special case since he was suspended for a year. For FA purposes a player with only a 5th year left is basically on a 1 year contract. Ahhh the good ole “exceptions” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirA1 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Scoundrel said: Ahhh the good ole “exceptions” It's pretty much always been that way for players that for some reason didn't get their 5th year option used in BDL. They are on 1 year deals for purposes of BDL FA. Edited June 12, 2023 by SirA1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Scoundrel said: Ahhh the good ole “exceptions” It's a deeply unwanted exception but there's no other way to do it. We can't just take the 5th year option on new contracts and add it in because several teams in the past have ripped up the 5th year option deal to lower the cap hit, and the numbers don't always add up to the new total if you just take the cap hits and add them together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, Blue said: It's a deeply unwanted exception but there's no other way to do it. We can't just take the 5th year option on new contracts and add it in because several teams in the past have ripped up the 5th year option deal to lower the cap hit, and the numbers don't always add up to the new total if you just take the cap hits and add them together. But they didn’t do that. It’s not ripped up. He’s under contract for 5 more seasons. The extension average only lists the last 4 years and doesn’t take into account this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Scoundrel said: But they didn’t do that. It’s not ripped up. He’s under contract for 5 more seasons. The extension average only lists the last 4 years and doesn’t take into account this year. They very obviously did. His 5th year option was $10.7 million and Spotrac now lists his cap hit for this season at just under $5 million. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/ed-oliver-29044/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Scoundrel said: But they didn’t do that. It’s not ripped up. He’s under contract for 5 more seasons. The extension average only lists the last 4 years and doesn’t take into account this year. I’m not extending him… regardless. I just know other people will face this thing as well on players they actually want to extend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Blue said: They very obviously did. His 5th year option was $10.7 million and Spotrac now lists his cap hit for this season at just under $5 million. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/ed-oliver-29044/ So then the average should be less then 17 million per year if the new contract is 4 years 68 million and they lost out 5 years of contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Scoundrel said: So then the average should be less then 17 million per year if the new contract is 4 years 68 million and they lost out 5 years of contracts. What in the world are you talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Blue said: What in the world are you talking about Spotrac lists his contract as 4 years 68 million but on the breakdown of years he is clearly under contract for the next 5. And those aren’t void years. I 5th year signed him with the option of extending him so that’s a new contract he is getting this offseason. The average shouldn’t be 17 million since in the first year of his new contract (he hasn’t played for me yet on this new contract) it is not being accounted for in that average per year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Just now, Scoundrel said: Spotrac lists his contract as 4 years 68 million but on the breakdown of years he is clearly under contract for the next 5. And those aren’t void years. I 5th year signed him with the option of extending him so that’s a new contract he is getting this offseason. The average shouldn’t be 17 million since in the first year of his new contract (he hasn’t played for me yet on this new contract) it is not being accounted for in that average per year. Correct. Who is "they" and how did they "lose out 5 years of contracts" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Blue said: Correct. Who is "they" and how did they "lose out 5 years of contracts" They is Spotrac and should have said left out not lost out all five years of the contract in the average 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGold Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 I actually agree with Scoundrel on Ed Oliver’s contract, Spotrac has that messed up. It was an extension and they just listed the AAV of the new money 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Just now, RedGold said: I actually agree with Scoundrel on Ed Oliver’s contract, Spotrac has that messed up. It was an extension and they just listed the AAV of the new money I do too, and my proposed solution is adding the 5th year option to the extension total and dividing by 5 for the 75% amount. But I don't know if that's currently allowed or if it was ruled a no-no at some point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 44 minutes ago, RedGold said: I actually agree with Scoundrel on Ed Oliver’s contract, Spotrac has that messed up. It was an extension and they just listed the AAV of the new money Thats my understanding for how a Quinnen extension would work. If they keep the 5th year option and just add years to it, there's an AAV for this year and a different one for the next 4 years. You add it all up and multiply by .75. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 5 hours ago, Ragnarok said: Thats my understanding for how a Quinnen extension would work. If they keep the 5th year option and just add years to it, there's an AAV for this year and a different one for the next 4 years. You add it all up and multiply by .75. Should be the 5th year price plus the years added imo. Not the AAV of the first year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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