CWood21 Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, StLunatic88 said: Thats 11 guys who you think we can squeeze regular at bats into 9 spots? Feels like someone is getting left out. And that’s not even talking about our actual backups and some other prospects making some noise. Without hesitation. Juan Yepez has done nothing to justify giving him 600 ABs, and especially not over someone who is viewed a a consensus top 10 prospect. Paul DeJong is our backup MIF, or at least he should be as long as Tommy Edman produces and Nolan Gorman hasn't shown he's a bust. The only "open" spot in our lineup is catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kgarrett12486 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 I've heard us most connected to Carlos Rodon and Nathan Eovaldi on the pitching front. Seems like we want the rentals here, as they wont cost as much, hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLunatic88 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 34 minutes ago, CWood21 said: Without hesitation. Juan Yepez has done nothing to justify giving him 600 ABs, and especially not over someone who is viewed a a consensus top 10 prospect. Paul DeJong is our backup MIF, or at least he should be as long as Tommy Edman produces and Nolan Gorman hasn't shown he's a bust. The only "open" spot in our lineup is catcher. And Gorman has? You love sticking to a prospect ranking, that doesn’t fly for me once you’ve gotten significant time in the majors. Sure Gorman has higher upside, but upside and a .200 Average will get you sent right back to the minors If they are all still here, sure Gorman is going to get more chances than Yepez, but to pretend he has “proven” anything more than others is just drinking prospect kool aid at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holt_bruce81 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 24 minutes ago, kgarrett12486 said: I've heard us most connected to Carlos Rodon and Nathan Eovaldi on the pitching front. Seems like we want the rentals here, as they wont cost as much, hopefully. Albert Pujols, Yadier Molina, Corey Dickerson, Nick Wittgren and Drew VerHagen for Carlos Rodon.....who says no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 42 minutes ago, StLunatic88 said: And Gorman has? You love sticking to a prospect ranking, that doesn’t fly for me once you’ve gotten significant time in the majors. Sure Gorman has higher upside, but upside and a .200 Average will get you sent right back to the minors If they are all still here, sure Gorman is going to get more chances than Yepez, but to pretend he has “proven” anything more than others is just drinking prospect kool aid at this point In 210 PA, Gorman has a 117 wRC+ and .331 wOBA while Yepez has a 113 wRC+ and .325 wOBA in 228 PA. One is a 1B/DH-only, and the other is a 2B/3B. There's not even a comparison here. Inherently, Gorman is quite a bit more valuable. And it's not about "proving" more, it's about getting the most production out of any position. If he qualified, Yepez would be 13th in wRC+ among all DHs (17th among all 1B). Nolan Gorman would be 11th among all 2B if he qualified in wRC+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttitansfan4life Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, CWood21 said: Edited August 2, 2022 by ttitansfan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLunatic88 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, ttitansfan4life said: As I’ve said. We’ve got two packages on the table. And the Nats think they can push to combine them how they like. And that’s just not going to happen. Id imagine both offers include Gorman and Liberatore, probably Burleson as well. The difference is probably Carlson vs Walker/Winn and then the level of final throw in depending on who they pick of that trio, somewhere on the scale of Graceffo to Woodford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLunatic88 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 35 minutes ago, CWood21 said: In 210 PA, Gorman has a 117 wRC+ and .331 wOBA while Yepez has a 113 wRC+ and .325 wOBA in 228 PA. One is a 1B/DH-only, and the other is a 2B/3B. There's not even a comparison here. Inherently, Gorman is quite a bit more valuable. And it's not about "proving" more, it's about getting the most production out of any position. If he qualified, Yepez would be 13th in wRC+ among all DHs (17th among all 1B). Nolan Gorman would be 11th among all 2B if he qualified in wRC+. Do you really look at all the numbers you posted and actually see a tangible difference there? This is not about saying Yepez is better for this lineup than Gorman, it’s to point out that Gorman isn’t out here lighting the world on fire. And if we are saying Gorman is long term viable at 2B, then Yepez would qualify as OF too. Just saying there’s more Brett Wallace in there than many want to admit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holt_bruce81 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 @StLunatic88We did it dawg!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttitansfan4life Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Holy hell we did something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLunatic88 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 1 minute ago, holt_bruce81 said: @StLunatic88We did it dawg!! I actually LOVE it. the lefty innings eater we need. Wish we did it a month ago, could have gotten us a few more wins Better have been cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttitansfan4life Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Hopefully this isn’t the only move 👀👀👀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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holt_bruce81 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, StLunatic88 said: I actually LOVE it. the lefty innings eater we need. Wish we did it a month ago, could have gotten us a few more wins Better have been cheap Oh no, I love it too. Add another one now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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