kgarrett12486 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Heard an interesting take on this market from guy who writes for bizball (can't remember his name). He said he thinks teams are being contentious of handing out longer year deals, even to superstars because thought around owners and FOs are the impending work stoppage in 2022. He spoke with several anonymous owners and GMs who thought it is enivitably going to happen. Teams with analytic FOs are forecasting this and don't want to be tied to a a massive deal when they could loose revenue for a strike. They also are looking at the revenue lost in the seasons ensuing a strike. It took baseball 4 years after to recover from the last strike and that was due to the help of Sosa/McGuire. Could take even longer next time... Interesting to think about... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttitansfan4life Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Eh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CWood21 Posted December 21, 2018 Author Share Posted December 21, 2018 22 minutes ago, ttitansfan4life said: Eh... Depending on the contract, I like this moreso than Britton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 21 minutes ago, CWood21 said: Depending on the contract, I like this moreso than Britton. Same here. He's a bigtime bounce back candidate. Injury derailed him last year. He was lights out for several years before that. He's still got plenty in the tank... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttitansfan4life Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, kgarrett12486 said: Same here. He's a bigtime bounce back candidate. Injury derailed him last year. He was lights out for several years before that. He's still got plenty in the tank... I hope so and hope it was just the injury because he was pretty bad last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, ttitansfan4life said: I hope so and hope it was just the injury because he was pretty bad last year. Yep, he was. He dealt with 3 separate injuries (knee, hamstring and shoulder impingement) essentially all year though and limited his innings... I think 2018 was an outlier, if he's healthy I think he's exactly what we need. Look at his 2016 and 2017 numbers, he was amazing... Hopefully the terms make sense... Edited December 21, 2018 by kgarrett12486 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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holt_bruce81 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Love the signing. And it’s only 2 years so we’re not eating a contract, like we’ll most likely be doing with Cecil. Speaking of Cecil...this is gotta be the end for him right? Shreve and Miller in the Pen, can’t imagine they carry a third guy down there. Be interesting to see how they set up this Closer role. Is Alex Reyes a real possibility? Are they just going to throw Hicks in that role from day one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 The longer I’ve thought on Miller the more excited I am. His injuries were a red flag but they seemed flukey. Same as Leone. If both guys rebound to 2017 levels our pen is nasty. Add Brebbia, Hicks, Hudson, maybe Reyes, Waino, that’s a strong group. It’s got a lot of talent and depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 50 minutes ago, holt_bruce81 said: Love the signing. And it’s only 2 years so we’re not eating a contract, like we’ll most likely be doing with Cecil. Speaking of Cecil...this is gotta be the end for him right? Shreve and Miller in the Pen, can’t imagine they carry a third guy down there. Be interesting to see how they set up this Closer role. Is Alex Reyes a real possibility? Are they just going to throw Hicks in that role from day one? Maybe they’ll go away from the traditional closer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 7 hours ago, holt_bruce81 said: Love the signing. And it’s only 2 years so we’re not eating a contract, like we’ll most likely be doing with Cecil. Speaking of Cecil...this is gotta be the end for him right? Shreve and Miller in the Pen, can’t imagine they carry a third guy down there. Be interesting to see how they set up this Closer role. Is Alex Reyes a real possibility? Are they just going to throw Hicks in that role from day one? I think Cecil gets a clean slate heading into spring. If he pitches decent, I think he'll be on this team. The money is definitely a factor. Shreve isn't a lock IMO. There were some insiders who thought he might get non tendered at beginning of the offseason. He really wasn't good for us. He put a lot of guys on base for a loogy and lefties hit him hard in his time here. He's got the most uphill battle IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 9 hours ago, ttitansfan4life said: Goddamnit this is going to be something totally reasonable like 2/$28MM. Good deal for you dudes. Miller's velocity was fine in September when he was healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted December 21, 2018 Author Share Posted December 21, 2018 8 hours ago, holt_bruce81 said: Love the signing. And it’s only 2 years so we’re not eating a contract, like we’ll most likely be doing with Cecil. Speaking of Cecil...this is gotta be the end for him right? Shreve and Miller in the Pen, can’t imagine they carry a third guy down there. Be interesting to see how they set up this Closer role. Is Alex Reyes a real possibility? Are they just going to throw Hicks in that role from day one? I'm not sure that Cecil gets yanked just yet. He's still due another $14.5M over the next two years. At this point, some combination of Andrew Miller, Jordan Hicks, Alex reyes, and Dakota Hudson figure to make some sort of 7/8/9 combination. I'd assume the closer gig will be between Jordan Hicks and Andrew Miller. Miller probably has the edge given his history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted December 21, 2018 Author Share Posted December 21, 2018 44 minutes ago, kgarrett12486 said: I think Cecil gets a clean slate heading into spring. If he pitches decent, I think he'll be on this team. The money is definitely a factor. Shreve isn't a lock IMO. There were some insiders who thought he might get non tendered at beginning of the offseason. He really wasn't good for us. He put a lot of guys on base for a loogy and lefties hit him hard in his time here. He's got the most uphill battle IMO. Agreed. See little to no chance of the Cardinals eating Cecil's contract at this point. $14.5M over the next 2 years is probably too much. IF they decide to move on, they're going to attach him to a player they've soured on. Think the Colby Rasmus trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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