kgarrett12486 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, StLunatic88 said: I dont think we want to be giving up a Draft Pick (on top of the money) for a guy we dont know is a shut down closer. I don't like it either, which is why I prefer the better option (Colome). Just stating if we can't land Colome, I expect Holland r Davis to be pursued, given our rumored interest... Sounds like our interest in bringing back Nicasio as the closer has sailed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 DGoold had a live chat from the Winter meetings today and had an interesting response to a question asked about the Rays/Cards working on the Colome deal. He said that he heard that Cards Rays were talking about a mega package of Colome, Longoria and possibly Odorizzi. However, this was before the Mikolas signing. Still thinks Longoria and Colome would be a package deal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tttmikeb Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 23 minutes ago, kgarrett12486 said: DGoold had a live chat from the Winter meetings today and had an interesting response to a question asked about the Rays/Cards working on the Colome deal. He said that he heard that Cards Rays were talking about a mega package of Colome, Longoria and possibly Odorizzi. However, this was before the Mikolas signing. Still thinks Longoria and Colome would be a package deal... I like Odorizzi because I know he's from the STL area (Highland, IL). I don't know much about him as a pitcher. Good enough to be giving up prospects for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 hours ago, tttmikeb said: I like Odorizzi because I know he's from the STL area (Highland, IL). I don't know much about him as a pitcher. Good enough to be giving up prospects for? He's coming off a down year, but has a good track record and is in his prime. He's controllable for 2 more seasons as well. He'd be an excellent MOTR arm... Sounds like we're done though w/ SP's currently though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLunatic88 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, kgarrett12486 said: He's coming off a down year, but has a good track record and is in his prime. He's controllable for 2 more seasons as well. He'd be an excellent MOTR arm... Sounds like we're done though w/ SP's currently though... If Odorizzi would actually be part of a deal with TB (I would imagine we wouldnt pass on that chance) I could see us just swapping out Wacha for him, especially if the rumored interest in him is legitimate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holt_bruce81 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Ya know, this baseball forum sucks now. Might be leaving soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, holt_bruce81 said: Ya know, this baseball forum sucks now. Might be leaving soon. Why? What happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, holt_bruce81 said: Ya know, this baseball forum sucks now. Might be leaving soon. It is a bit circle jerky. I tend to just stay here in good ol' Cardinals land. I hope you reconsider leaving. I like having such intelligent posters in here. Edited December 11, 2017 by MOSteelers56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holt_bruce81 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 13 minutes ago, kgarrett12486 said: Why? What happened? nothing specific, just can't have a legit baseball conversation outside this Cardinal thread without their being a handful of Cardinal bashing. It's tiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, holt_bruce81 said: nothing specific, just can't have a legit baseball conversation outside this Cardinal thread without their being a handful of Cardinal bashing. It's tiring. That's why you just hang out in here. All the pertinent info is in this thread anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 21 hours ago, holt_bruce81 said: So lets say for the fun of it....we trade for Ozuna and sign Addison Reed to wrap up the offseason. Would you be satisfied? Satisfied? No. I'd be content, but it's still a bit short of what needs to happen. LIS, we need two bats this offseason if we want to be a good offense IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 11 hours ago, kgarrett12486 said: Speculation out of NY that Yankees might be looking to flip Clint Frazier now (w/ the addition of Stanton) for a MLB SP or near MLB ready SP... Hmmm... Not going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 10 hours ago, StLunatic88 said: I dont think we want to be giving up a Draft Pick (on top of the money) for a guy we dont know is a shut down closer. Agreed. If we miss out on Colome, I'd imagine they turn their focus to Addison Reed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 25 minutes ago, CWood21 said: Agreed. If we miss out on Colome, I'd imagine they turn their focus to Addison Reed. Reed probably won't last that long on the market... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I really hope we can somehow get Colome and Archer. I wouldn't mind to give up some decent prospects for it either. We're crazy to think our rotation is set and can be a strength with the current makeup. A 1-2 punch of Archer and Martinez would remedy this. Giving up Kelly and Flaherty plus O'Neil/Bader/Mags would be fine. I'm not sure that would be enough, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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