big_palooka Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, ronjon1990 said: Wilson is the guy you take a stab at on Day 2 to see of you catch a falling star, not a top 10 pick at a position of need. Then why was he ranked the #2 DE in the draft and consensus top 10 pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 13 minutes ago, big_palooka said: Then why was he ranked the #2 DE in the draft and consensus top 10 pick? Weak year for dline imo  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Weak year for dline imo  The DE class specifically was seen as the deepest in years. Try again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101Raider Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Jerry said: I honestly wouldn't have been upset with that pick. At least he's really freaking good and we wouldn't have to worry about resigning Jacobs. I would’ve been furious at the time. But man that kid is fun to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, big_palooka said: The DE class specifically was seen as the deepest in years. Try again.  deep = you don’t have to reach @7 for a de cause you can get the same value in later rounds. Which I agree with weak= there’s barely any blue chip guys so you don’t have to take one early now cb you had to take early cause Imo it wasn’t a deep cb class   1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydFan Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 A lot of revisionist history in this thread. Wilson was considered a slam dunk pick at 7 and received a wide range of excellent coverage and grades. Insane that people are saying he’s a bust two games into his career with no TC and coming off an injury. He very well may be one, but calling him one after two games is asinine at best. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 I remember a time where rookies no matter where selected wasn’t expected to do much Year 1.   If he was never injured and attended all offseason then I’d be concerned but that’s not the case.  He missed a ton of time that critical for draft prospects and most of training camp. This is the NFL where everyone is a peak athlete. It takes time to get back in shape from a Lisfranc injury which is one of the most tricky injuries to rehab from.  The important part is for him to keep working on his game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 19 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said:  deep = you don’t have to reach @7 for a de cause you can get the same value in later rounds. Which I agree with weak= there’s barely any blue chip guys so you don’t have to take one early now cb you had to take early cause Imo it wasn’t a deep cb class   He wasn't a reach. He was a projected top 10 pick? Some top 5 with more upside than Anderson. Universally seen as raw and developmental. Nobody had expectations for him year 1 coming off injury.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, big_palooka said: He wasn't a reach. He was a projected top 10 pick? Some top 5 with more upside than Anderson. Universally seen as raw and developmental. Nobody had expectations for him year 1 coming off injury.  You draft a de #7 with no expectations for year 1 for a team that desperately needs defensive help. Esp with a guy like maxx in his prime. Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: You draft a de #7 with no expectations for year 1 for a team that desperately needs defensive help. Esp with a guy like maxx in his prime. Really? We covered this. They need defensive help for the long haul. Maxx will still be in his prime year 2 when Wilson is rounded into form. You think there was one player at 7 who was going to change the defense this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydFan Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: You draft a de #7 with no expectations for year 1 for a team that desperately needs defensive help. Esp with a guy like maxx in his prime. Really? You called him a reach and he definitely wasn’t a reach. I personally would have rather had Gonzo there but it’s not like an Alex Leatherwood situation a lot of people are comparing it to. He went if anything a little below where a lot of people had him going. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Just now, big_palooka said: We covered this. They need defensive help for the long haul. Maxx will still be in his prime year 2 when Wilson is rounded into form. You think there was one player at 7 who was going to change the defense this season? You told me last year I had to wait for year 2 for chandler… i think other players at 7 could contribute more now and 2-3 years from now. Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, FloydFan said: You called him a reach and he definitely wasn’t a reach. I personally would have rather had Gonzo there but it’s not like an Alex Leatherwood situation a lot of people are comparing it to. He went if anything a little below where a lot of people had him going. We’ll see on Sunday he has another chance. Or should I not get my hopes up? pitt picked my fav ot Broderick and my fav cb Porter so Brod vs Wilson will be interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydFan Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: We’ll see on Sunday he has another chance. Or should I not get my hopes up? pitt picked my fav ot Broderick and my fav cb Porter so Brod vs Wilson will be interesting I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt this year. With all the contributing factors I will not make a scathing indictment until next year but I will definitely be at least very concerned if we don’t see any improvement by end of the year. I like Brod a lot and was a fan of Porter also. I really wanted Spoon but we weren’t able to have that of course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 40 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: You told me last year I had to wait for year 2 for chandler… i think other players at 7 could contribute more now and 2-3 years from now. Yes. No I did not say that about a 33 year player. And that's fine and your opinion. Wilson is a boom or bust prospect. Wasn't my first choice, but not writing him off after 2 weeks with a truncated offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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