Kingram Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 28 minutes ago, Texansfan713 said: How? Scoffing at taking Lauri Markkanen over him. Sengun is good but he's absolute trash defensively and tbh I really don't think he's some elite playmaker. He's a good passer for a C, but I think a lot of people unfairly assume he's going to be the next Jokic because he's a C who can pass a little bit. He ranks in the 54th percentile as a post up scorer, 52nd percentile as the PnR roll man, and the 64th percentile as the PnR ball handler. For reference, Jonas Valanciunas ranks in the 76th percentile as a PnR roll man and the 74th percentile as a post scorer. Jonas is a better defensive player, and if he was allowed to take 16 shots a night I'm sure he could put up the numbers Sengun does (not the assists obviously). So, Sengun is a middle of the road guy in PnR and post up scoring. He can't really shoot. He's an awful defender. I just don't see the appeal, and especially as a #1. I think he can be a nice piece for a contender but he's certainly not a #1. He's probably not a legitimate #2 either. I just don't see it. He's allowed to touch the ball a lot and take a lot of shots on a bad team but I've never watched a Rockets game and felt like wow that guys going to take a team places. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kingram said: Scoffing at taking Lauri Markkanen over him. Sengun is good but he's absolute trash defensively and tbh I really don't think he's some elite playmaker. He's a good passer for a C, but I think a lot of people unfairly assume he's going to be the next Jokic because he's a C who can pass a little bit. He ranks in the 54th percentile as a post up scorer, 52nd percentile as the PnR roll man, and the 64th percentile as the PnR ball handler. For reference, Jonas Valanciunas ranks in the 76th percentile as a PnR roll man and the 74th percentile as a post scorer. Jonas is a better defensive player, and if he was allowed to take 16 shots a night I'm sure he could put up the numbers Sengun does (not the assists obviously). So, Sengun is a middle of the road guy in PnR and post up scoring. He can't really shoot. He's an awful defender. I just don't see the appeal, and especially as a #1. I think he can be a nice piece for a contender but he's certainly not a #1. He's probably not a legitimate #2 either. I just don't see it. He's allowed to touch the ball a lot and take a lot of shots on a bad team but I've never watched a Rockets game and felt like wow that guys going to take a team places. You must have forgotten the fact he is just 21 years old and his defense has improved significantly year 3. IIRC Sengun ranks in the top 10 in NBA defensive win shares and 11th in defensive box plus-minus. At least thats where he was ranked in Dec heading into January. Edited February 9 by Texansfan713 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamq Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Why is Tatum 75-1 for MVP when his team has the best record? Jokic and Shai are the favorites right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingram Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 hours ago, Texansfan713 said: You must have forgotten the fact he is just 21 years old and his defense has improved significantly year 3. IIRC Sengun ranks in the top 10 in NBA defensive win shares and 11th in defensive box plus-minus. At least thats where he was ranked in Dec heading into January. I didn’t forget. He could certainly get better, right now I don’t see a guy who’s going to be a #1. He’s an atrocious defensive player. NBA defensive metrics are historically unreliable. He gets abused on that end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 hours ago, adamq said: Why is Tatum 75-1 for MVP when his team has the best record? Jokic and Shai are the favorites right now Because he's not putting up that great of a season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbie_Hancock Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Pat Bev doing more coaching in 36 minutes then griffin did all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbie_Hancock Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Forget having sex tonight I’m getting off watching the pat Bev and Portis energy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catcheryea Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 30 minutes ago, Herbie_Hancock said: Forget having sex tonight I’m getting off watching the pat Bev and Portis energy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Brons body language is always terrible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingram Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) Pelicans getting called for three 3 second violations tonight while AD has spent every minute of the game camped out in the paint is peak NBA Edited February 10 by Kingram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamq Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 ryan arcidiacono is the first player in nba history to play in 20 consecutive games and not score a single point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted February 10 Author Share Posted February 10 (edited) luka is insane, sometimes he will just play perfect basketball Edited February 10 by 11sanchez11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 53 minutes ago, 11sanchez11 said: luka is insane, sometimes he will just play perfect basketball Dallas has failed him as poorly as Cleveland failed LeBron the first time around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Springer for a second round pick and Xavier Tillman for two-two’s is solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted February 11 Author Share Posted February 11 Nurkic vs Draymond is hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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