2023 GDT Week #10 Steelers 5-3 host the 3-5 Packers

[warfelg]

https://x.com/steelersdepot/status/1724094923241324997?s=46&t=xd5QJpZuXv2k7qD0xqd6aA

[jebrick]

1 hour ago, warfelg said:

https://x.com/steelersdepot/status/1724094923241324997?s=46&t=xd5QJpZuXv2k7qD0xqd6aA

We need to cover the receivers better and not have them totally wide open, says jebrick.  He also added that giving up 4+ yards a carry is another problem.

 

Not making too much fun of TJ but being Captain Obvious.

Edited November 13, 2023 by jebrick

[3rivers]

2 hours ago, warfelg said:

https://x.com/movethesticks/status/1724083771211952197?s=46&t=xd5QJpZuXv2k7qD0xqd6aA

OT Broderick Jones jumps off the screen when you look at all of their explosive runs

 

about time they got serious about running game.  

 

 

[3rivers]

1 hour ago, warfelg said:

https://x.com/steelersdepot/status/1724094923241324997?s=46&t=xd5QJpZuXv2k7qD0xqd6aA

notice Levi in the pic, perhaps a hint at how to fix this?

 

7 minutes ago, jebrick said:

Not making too much fun of TJ but being Captain Obvious.

speaking with the media can do this.  If the team can keep improving, thats what matters. Right now ILB needs help since the Kwon injury and CB still has issues with Levi seemingly a step slow lately. 

 

[VigilantZombie]

4 hours ago, warfelg said:

https://x.com/movethesticks/status/1724083771211952197?s=46&t=xd5QJpZuXv2k7qD0xqd6aA

They absolutely got that one right

[3rivers]

6 minutes ago, VigilantZombie said:

They absolutely got that one right

what if chuks wasn't speaking out and overheard in the jags game? Does Jones still sit on the sidelines?

[VigilantZombie]

19 minutes ago, 3rivers said:

what if chuks wasn't speaking out and overheard in the jags game? Does Jones still sit on the sidelines?

I think Chuks' play got him benched as much as anything 

[3rivers]

34 minutes ago, VigilantZombie said:

I think Chuks' play got him benched as much as anything 

agree, maybe they wanted an additional 'reason'? Who really knows but how ironic it is that the team has such a better run game.   One of colberts holdovers will be gone next year, they might even cut him if they can't trade him for a pack of danny smith  league chew or an empty gatorade cooler signed by AB

 

[DR43]

Who will be the starting ILB this Sunday?

[JustPlainNasty]

They released Fohoko again. Getting ready for moves. 

For those that were interested in Anthony Barr, Philly had him in for a visit today

Edited November 13, 2023 by JustPlainNasty

[Dcash4]

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First series:

1. 11 personnel, 2 high nickel packages, 7 on 7 blocking. First defender to meet Najee is a S at +3, falls for 2 more. Gain of 5

2. 11 personnel, condensed formation. 7 in the box w/ an 8th dropping down at the snap. Washingtons not great, Najee met at -1. Too many bodies. 

3. 11 personnel, 2nd and 10, Nickel 2 high. Draw out of gun, Najee met at 7 and falls to a gain of 8. 

4. 11 personnel, Nickel 2 high (theme), Jones leaves wayyyy early, but not called. Warren first contacted by the nickel corner at 8-9 yards. Falls to the first. 

5. 11 personnel. Nickel, single high on alignment, but the motion is shifting the safeties at the snap. With the shift, we are 7 on 5 blocking…Najee met at +4

6. 11, against nickel in man align single high shade to pickens. 7 on 7 blocking. Walk in Najee TD

 

Second Series:

1. 11 personnel, Nickel with single high (dude is playing at 15!), dropped second S in the box. Jones seems to think he should pull, but remembers not to and the play goes for 3. Rookie just looks like he messed up

2. It’s a sneak

3. 11 against nickel, even box, Warren met at +4 with an arm attempt and goes for 8 or 9. 

4. 11 against nickel, Najee on the pitch. Met first at +6

5. 11 against nickel, single high is at like 20, Najee on the draw met at around +2

6. 11 against nickel, single high. Warren slips for 0 yards. Kenny Clark is good. That’s the note. 

7. 11 against nickel, 2 high. 6 man box, 6 man blocking…Warren is met at +5 (37 will not be having a nice day at film today…) and shakes it into the endzone

 

Theme after 2 series of success…. Lighter personnel. Running at advantageous boxes. 

 

Third series:

1. 11 against nickel, single high playing center field for the Erie Seawolves, even box, toss to Najee met at +2

2. Sneak that nearly got kenny killed

3. 4th and 1, 11 personnel AGAINST NICKEL, I wouldn’t ask Robinson to block a DL on a conversion play, but he gets in the way and Warren gets the first.

4. 11 against nickel, single high S drops down, Najee met at +3

 

Fourth series:

1. Holy smoke – first run out of 12. Single high out of base, shade to Pickens. Pitch to Najee. 7 blockers for 8 in the box. Washington is meh. First contact at -1

 

Second half, first series:

1. 11 personnel, nickel. S in the box, not a lot of push. Met at +1

2. 11 against nickel, 2 high. Our good friend Dan Moore let’s his guy swim him and he loses positioning. Warren had a seam, but can’t get there. Met at -1, but gets 2

3. 11 against nickel, 2 high. Not touched till +2 or 3 and gets about 5

 

Third series:

1. 11 against nickel, single high in punt return territory, Warren with a big play on the pitch for 11

2. 11 personnel against BASE – first time all game, great time for the end around to Austin. Props to Canada for 5

Putting the notes in a quote so you can collapse it and not read the giant wall of text, but I was so very curious about the success of the run game by box numbers, personnel, and formation.

I stopped tracking late in the 4th when we are talking non-neutral, but all but 1 run play (sans the keepers) were run out of 11 personnel. All but 1 of those runs were run against nickel defense. All but 3 of the runs had first contact in plus yardage. 

Breaking the trend of heavy formations meaning runs. We are staying in 11 and getting lighter boxes and more advantageous positions for the majority of the game. Curious to see if teams line up against us in base soon on early downs against 11....because we were no threat to throw. 

Math was not this teams friend in the run game and they have done a much better job of just not being bad at math. 

Sometimes football can be easy: Run out of passing sets, pass out of running sets. When Muth comes back I would really like to see us start passing out of 12 and keep running in 11. 

Also, this passing game just sucks. Pickens is not getting a true double (heck, he was singled covered a ton), but they were not going to let us get big plays. Their single high safety was lining up in Ohio for half the game. They were putting a lid on us, and we continually tried to attack downfield with our receivers anyway. It's no wonder only 39% of passes went to receivers against a DB unit that was sitting all their best players. Canada figured out a run solution, but couldn't adjust to a drop back game. Should have eaten them alive. 

[3rivers]

21 minutes ago, JustPlainNasty said:

They released Fohoko again. Getting ready for moves. 

For those that were interested in Anthony Barr, Philly had him in for a visit today

Evans or Barr is what I expect in that order. Then Herbig might get some time at ILB as well as Neal .  Where is Reuben Foster? Didn't he play for the Maulers? He should know his way around the city, maybe he can drop off a resume

[Dcash4]

Yinz know ball pod shared that PFF has a stat for how many pass plays have 2 or more receivers open. We were at 50% of the pass calls this week for that. 

I don’t think he can be called Kenny anymore. That’s too fun. He is now just Ken. Ken Pickett. 

[jebrick]

59 minutes ago, Dcash4 said:

Yinz know ball pod shared that PFF has a stat for how many pass plays have 2 or more receivers open. We were at 50% of the pass calls this week for that. 

I don’t think he can be called Kenny anymore. That’s too fun. He is now just Ken. Ken Pickett. 

Playing like a backup.  Either he has no confidence he can make the throw or is too scared of a turnover.  Either way it is not fun to watch.

[warfelg]

14 minutes ago, jebrick said:

Playing like a backup.  Either he has no confidence he can make the throw or is too scared of a turnover.  Either way it is not fun to watch.

I think it's both.  He's working so much to protect the ball that he doesn't have the confidence in making the throw when he needs to.  While he hasn't done well in his own development, the way we've made him develop has been terrible. I just think back to Ben's development: run the ball, PA pass, split the field in half, give him vertical reads.  Contrast that with Kenny's development: broken run game, no PA movement, spread the field right to left, individual routes with no depth to reads.