DingoLadd Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 BDL 2017 Week 14: Vote for who you think would win the game. Rules: One vote per person, duplicate accounts will be banned and action taken against those attempting to rig the results. One vote per team involved in the match. Co-owners may vote in every match up except their own. For people who have been following along and wish to vote: please join the conversation and maybe give a reason you voted as you did. This will alleviate any suspicions of unusual voting and will promote discussion. Players that have a (D) next to their name indicate that they are doubtful or unlikely to play. Players with (GTD) are game-time decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DingoLadd Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 Gameplan Long Beach Offense: QB- Josh McCown RB- Mark Ingram WR- DeAndre Hopkins WR- Marvin Jones Slot- Devin Funchess Slot- Christian McCaffrey LT- Terron Armstead LG- Joe Thuney C- Max Unger RG- Andrew Norwell RT- Russell Okung RB- Damien Williams WR- Cooper Kupp WR- Sammie Coates TE- Tyler Kroft TE- George Kittle OL- Jamon Brown OL- Hal Vaitai OL- Brandon Shell Defense: LE- Cam Jordan NT- DJ Reader UT- Javon Hargrave RE- Trey Flowers WLB- De’Vondre Campbell MLB- Jarrad Davis SLB- Clay Matthews CB- Trumaine Johnson CB- Artie Burns FS- Budda Baker SS- Landon Collins LB- Deone Bucannon DT/DE- Stephon Tuitt DE- Ronald Blair DT- Abry Jones LB- Jayon Brown CB- Bradley Roby S- Darian Thompson S/CB- Kareem Jackson Wichita Woodpeckers QB – Jared Goff RB – Leonard Fournette WR – Dez Bryant WR – Kenny Stills TE – Greg Olsen TE – Ben Watson LT – Duane Brown LG – Kelechi Osemele C – Ryan Kalil RG – Jahri Evans RT – Austin Howard QB – Teddy Bridgewater RB – Matt Forte WR – DeVante Parker WR – Eric Decker TE – Cameron Brate TE – Adam Shaheen OL – Graham Glasglow OL – Jeremy Parnell DE – Brandon Graham DT – Corey Peters DT – A’Shawn Robinson DE – Michael Bennett LB – Luke Kuechly LB – Sean Lee CB – Ken Crawley FS – Vonn Bell SS – Harrison Smith NCB – Brian Poole CB – Daryl Worley DE – Olivier Vernon DT – Nazair Jones LB – Tamba Hali LB – AJ Klein LB – Haason Reddick CB – Quincy Wilson CB – William Gay S – Ron Parker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DingoLadd Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 Team: Last game of the regular season. Last week we didn’t come to play because of some unforeseen circumstance. We are back and ready to get busy. This game plan will be short and sweet. Formation: We will run a four wide to spread out the Wichita defense. McCaffrey will man the fourth receiver position. When McCaffrey is in the backfield Cooper Kupp will man it. We will mix in some three wide and two tight in different situations when needed, but our four wide is our bread and butter this week. Offense: No need to hype any of my guys in week 14. You already know the studs and you already know the duds. We will let McCown air it out to Hopkins, Jones Jr, Funchess, McCaffrey, Kupp, Ingram and the lot. With sophisticated route concepts that a veteran like him can take advantage of. We can abuse their D with our size from Funchess in the, and attack them with quickness from the other slot position. We have two very good receivers on the outside to combo route with the slot players. Woodpeckers have a thin corner group and we will take advantage of that. We have the option for a fifth passing option with Ingram or McCaffrey when he is back there coming out of the backfield. We have a good pass blocking line. Okung gets the start again at RT with Armstead at LT. Our interior is Norwell, Unger, and Thuney. We believe these five can hold up and give McCown enough time to throw. Ingram will be used as a sixth blocker when he is not being released on routes, something he is very good at. We can role to a three wide if we are facing too much pressure and have Kittle or Kroft chip or stand in block from the TE position. Run Offense: Ingram will get the majority of carries, while McCaffrey will see some from the backfield. We will run a zone run scheme as my oline is athletic and can get out in space. Have you seen Armstead getting down field and punishing people? Oh my. They have a good run defense but as the defense is spread out with my 4 wide look we will have holes to gash them throughout. Defense: Punish the Leonard and Jared band, Bring the heat, blitz to stop the run and pass. Force Goff to beat us. Formation: 4-3 under with cover 3 shell behind it. This walks Landon Collins up as an extra box defender against the run. Front 7: We load up the interior with Reader and Hargrave to stop Fournette. My ends in Flowers and Jordan will have success closing down any outside runs and funneling them inside to my beasts. Stephon Tuitt backs up inside and comes in on clear passing downs and Ronald Blair backs up at end. Behind them will be Campbell, Davis and Matthews at LBer. They will have cover three assignments, with Matthews taking on blitzing roles to stop the run and disrupting Goff. We believe we can stop their three wide with our traditional 4-3 cover three shell, but we will bring in Roby in the slot in place of Matthews, and Bucannon in place of Davis if their passing game gets going against us. Secondary: Tru will shadow Dez but have deep third responsibilities. Burns will play on the outside and have deep third responsibilities on the opposite side. Budda Baker will have deep middle. Collins is in the box playing curl to flat over the slot receiver or TE if there is no slot. We don’t believe their receivers will beat us in our cover three. Dez is good but the others can’t matchup with my secondary. I respect Goff, but I want him to have to beat us by utilizing his other passing options. Oh boy we are almost there! Motivation: It is time to play spoiler! Our team is ready to take another team out of the playoffs in Long Beach. Time to show the Leprechauns that a butt whooping is at the end of the rainbow. Offense: With Tyler Flowers not looking likely to play and the only other viable reserve pass rusher being Clay Matthews (who hasn’t played at DE since college) that leaves Cam Jordan as the only viable pass rusher on the front four unit. Thus, we expect Goff to have plenty of time in the pocket. We look to take advantage of this by utilizing a four wide (2 WR/2TE) look this week, to test the limits of LB’s coverage unit. We plan on making quick throws in an uptempo offense to keep LB’s defense on the field and not afford them time to pull in from the reserves. We plan to test the LB/S coverage with our two TE threats in Olsen and Watson over the middle, while looking for the single coverage to either Dez or Stills to find holes against a weak secondary. Johnson has struggled mightily this season and Burns just was torched himself this past week against the Bengals. If either get matched up with Dez in single coverage, we will mail it to him all day. Fournette will be used to pick up Jordan if he works his way through the OTs. Additionally to keep the defense honest we plan to run the ball with Fournette and occasionally Forte. Fournette has been an absolute powerhouse this season and with the TEs forcing Safeties and/or LBers out of position, it should buy him some more running room at the second level. We should be able to control the clock with Fournette toating the ball. Defense: LB typically sports a 3 WR set, so we will set up in our nickel formation per usual. Hopkins will pull the double coverage of Crawley and Bell to neutralize his big play ability. Worley will take Jones while Poole covers the slot. Smith will move up in the box to neutralize the TE and to neutralize the run. Kuechly will set up in the middle of the field to take away the over the middle throw. We will look to take advantage of an underwhelming defensive line with our variety of pass rushers in Graham, Bennett, Vernon and Hali, while also subbing in Jones from time to time to press the interior. We look to bust McCown’s pocket to not afford him to time to make accurate passes. There will be a situational blitz from Lee or Kuechly sporadically throughout the game to keep McCown uneasy. Lastly we will be trying to shut the door on LB’s RBs. Lee will spy McCaffrey/Ingram out of the back field. Our front four is already solid against the run and our second line of defense of Lee/Kuechly/Smith will extinguish any hope of getting a running game started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 My four wide even with McCown will be very nice against that coverage. Also playing a two tight fits perfectly into me wanting to run what is essentially a 4-4 with Collins up in the Box. Yeah baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Oh and it seems you meant to say I have an underwhelming oline but called them a dline and then mentioned how you were going to pass rush them. You can pass rush my dline all you want with your dline that would make for an entertaining sight. Or maybe you were calling your own dline underwhelming which I could see would be fair. Also my oline is actually pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 10 minutes ago, Counselor said: My four wide even with McCown will be very nice against that coverage. Also playing a two tight fits perfectly into me wanting to run what is essentially a 4-4 with Collins up in the Box. Yeah baby. Yet because you are playing a deep third zone defense, it is destroyed because of single coverage on the WRs and yo ur LBerd are already out of position for the uptempo dink and dunk to the TEs because you arr playing Cover 3. In regards to the typo, an entire post devoted to a typo just to trash talk is funny to me. It is like... you have coke to the realization that you won't be winning this match or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 28 minutes ago, PR said: Yet because you are playing a deep third zone defense, it is destroyed because of single coverage on the WRs and yo ur LBerd are already out of position for the uptempo dink and dunk to the TEs because you arr playing Cover 3. In regards to the typo, an entire post devoted to a typo just to trash talk is funny to me. It is like... you have coke to the realization that you won't be winning this match or something. No they won't my players are on you baby boy. I'm having fun with it. Now shut your mouth before I come across this thread and rush your defensive line with my defensive line! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Counselor said: No they won't my players are on you baby boy. I'm having fun with it. Now shut your mouth before I come across this thread and rush your defensive line with my defensive line! You say shadow and your defensive scheme is zone...you literally comtradicted yourself.. in your game plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 19 minutes ago, PR said: You say shadow and your defensive scheme is zone...you literally comtradicted yourself.. in your game plan Shadow in this case means that he moves to where Dez is lined up. No where did I say Man. I said but have deep third responsibilities. I would have said man if that's what I wanted him to do. You've read my game plans. I'm not some non detailed putz. I probably know more football than most. Don't try and play me baby girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DingoLadd Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 I'm going with Long beach for biased reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey5djh Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 8 hours ago, DingoLadd said: I'm going with Long beach for biased reasons. That's dumb. That said I do think Long Beach's 4 wide is much more effective than Wichita's 4 wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Hockey5djh said: That's dumb. That said I do think Long Beach's 4 wide is much more effective than Wichita's 4 wide. Counselor lost half of his pass rush with Flowers being out... if anyone has more time in the pocket it is Goff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Well this game is going to be an offensive explosion. I think Counselor caught PR a little off guard here with the four wide look, though i have no idea why Funchess is in the slot. I think that early lead is going to hold up. Beach 42-38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 12 hours ago, DingoLadd said: I'm going with Long beach for biased reasons. Man, this post reeks. Let's lynch this. DingoLadd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey5djh Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 25 minutes ago, PR said: Counselor lost half of his pass rush with Flowers being out... if anyone has more time in the pocket it is Goff... I saw that. That said a blitzing Clay Matthews should help compensate for the pass rush of Ronald Blair. Both teams have solid lines IMO. DeAndre Hopkins > Ken Crawley Marvin Jones > Daryl Worley Devin Funchess > Brian Poole Christian McCaffrey/Cooper Kupp > Quincy Wilson/William Gay Trumaine Johnson -push- Dez Bryant - Both are talented players having a down year. Artie Burns < Kenny Stills Bradley Roby > Greg Olsen De’Vondre Campbell > Ben Watson At best you win 2 of 4 match-ups whereas he wins all 4 solidly IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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