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Who are guys from other teams that are potential cap casualties that we should be aware of as a potential add?

Shaq Barrett is getting released today. Chargers need to drastically make room, making Mike Williams, Khalil Mack, or Joey Bosa potentially available. Anyone else anyone has an eye on?

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1 hour ago, AZBearsFan said:

Hunter Renfrow is a guy I like for us if he’s let go in LV. They’ve basically stuck him in a drawer since extending him 2 years ago after he had a 100-catch season out of the slot. 

the guy that put him in the drawer is gone now tho, so who knows

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1 minute ago, HuskieBear said:

the guy that put him in the drawer is gone now tho, so who knows

True. But he’s clearly their 3rd option now behind Adams and Meyers, and he counts $13.7M against the cap. They don’t need the space necessarily but that’s a lot if they don’t find him a consistent role, and they can save almost all of that ($11.88M) against the cap if they post-6/1 cut him. 

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The petty meathead in me wants the Bears to get Bakhtiari for cheap so he can try to beat GB. The logical me knows he has only played 14 games over the last 3 years combined.

Getting Harrison Smith to play S here is kind of the same thing as Bak. Some of it is spite and he should be cheaper, and its a rival talent.

I'm still someone who thinks Michael Thomas can be a solid WR3. See what his market is, with how little he has played it should be damn cheap.

I'd love to have Mack back at a fair price. Bosa with an incentive laden deal would be great too.

Logan Thomas is a guy I'd love to get in as TE2. Move guy who did well with a crap cast in WAS. Underrated guy.

Mike Williams has solid WR2 ability but IDK how well he is healing. Lot of pressure on the young QB to have his 2nd option out wide injured already.

Robert Woods would be a quick friend to any young QB IMO. 

Ogbah is a guy that fits and would be much cheaper, I'd still like to daft a higher ceiling prospect at EDGE though.

Gallup may be cut, I don't think he is a WR1 or WR2 but as a vet to go with Moore and a high pick I would be content with him.

Waller has declined and being paired with Jones drops his numbers, he could be a solid pick up as a move TE. Heard his effort has dropped tough so if there are motor issues then I'm out unless its an incentive laden contract.

I don't believe he gets cut but Keenan Allen's deal makes him a cut candidate. He gets injured too often but gets a TD in basically half of his games. Could play the X and let Moore do more with space off the line. Highly doubt it but would be awesome.

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2 hours ago, Sugashane said:

I'm still someone who thinks Michael Thomas can be a solid WR3. See what his market is, with how little he has played it should be damn cheap.

I think the guy just doesn't enjoy football anymore and is phoning it in just to get as many game checks as he can. Slightest little ache? Too hurt to play, sorry.

Hasn't helped him either that Derek Carr and his playstyle isn't a good fit for Thomas. Thomas in his prime made a lot of his production on quick hitters and timing plays with Brees, and the offense doesn't play that way anymore.

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1 hour ago, chisoxguy7 said:

I think the guy just doesn't enjoy football anymore and is phoning it in just to get as many game checks as he can. Slightest little ache? Too hurt to play, sorry.

Hasn't helped him either that Derek Carr and his playstyle isn't a good fit for Thomas. Thomas in his prime made a lot of his production on quick hitters and timing plays with Brees, and the offense doesn't play that way anymore.

Damn. I have little reason to watch NO so I haven't seen that. If so it would absolutely drop me out of wanting him. Maybe he has more going on that has him butting heads with the front office? Saw him vs HOU when I wanted to watch Stroud and he looked great that game. Carr missed him for two passes that should have got like 15-20 yards a piece.

That quick game is exactly what I want from him, the short tree/slant specialist and in-out options. One of the few things I really disliked about what Poles has done was how he left Fields on an island with a scheme that takes so many deep shots but doesn't provide the protection to do so. He made a big improvement there on 2023 but the C position was a damned mess, way worse than I would have expected too tbf. Hopefully another 1-2 players there and Williams/Maye can be protected better, and a guy who can be a safety net would be great in the slot.

Pearsall is a guy I really like for that role if he makes it to the third.

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14 minutes ago, Sugashane said:

Damn. I have little reason to watch NO so I haven't seen that. If so it would absolutely drop me out of wanting him

I'm a big fantasy guy (even though I only play in a singular league now, at one point was like 15) so generally I spend Sunday with Redzone on. This past season was the first time in a long time that Thomas brought *something* to the table, and even that was only good for an average of 4 catches/45 yards per game (he only played 10 before sitting out the last 8 weeks, with just one catch for 9 yards across his final two games played, so really he played in 8 games). Quite a few leg injuries over the last 3-4 years. Unless there's some behind the scenes explanation for what's been going on with him, I'm staying away.

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4 hours ago, Sugashane said:

I'm still someone who thinks Michael Thomas can be a solid WR3. See what his market is, with how little he has played it should be damn cheap.

Because of how many times NO has kicked his contract down the road already, cutting Michael Thomas this offseason even post-6/1 gives the Saints almost no cap relief. Useful or not, he’s probably in NO one more year.

 

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58 minutes ago, AZBearsFan said:

Because of how many times NO has kicked his contract down the road already, cutting Michael Thomas this offseason even post-6/1 gives the Saints almost no cap relief. Useful or not, he’s probably in NO one more year.

 

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Ah damn. I forgot they reworked his deal last year. Good call.

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Thomas can void his contract and probably will. If he plays for the Saints he'd get vet minimum but someone else will pay more than that for him.

Bears should be looking for players coming off their rookie deals, not old timers. Lloyd Cushenberry should be at the top of the list. Ten or eleven mil per year would likely get him signed and be a massive upgrade at center. 

Bosa may be cut, he can't stay healthy. Mack would be available in trade coming off a 17 sack season. Williams should be cut by the Chargers and Allen seems likely to be restructured.

 

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5 minutes ago, sparky151 said:

Thomas can void his contract and probably will. If he plays for the Saints he'd get vet minimum but someone else will pay more than that for him.

Bears should be looking for players coming off their rookie deals, not old timers. Lloyd Cushenberry should be at the top of the list. Ten or eleven mil per year would likely get him signed and be a massive upgrade at center. 

Bosa may be cut, he can't stay healthy. Mack would be available in trade coming off a 17 sack season. Williams should be cut by the Chargers and Allen seems likely to be restructured.

 

AZ posted Thomas's contract above - he's definitely not getting paid vet minimum if he's still on the saints. he literally can't

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21 hours ago, HuskieBear said:

AZ posted Thomas's contract above - he's definitely not getting paid vet minimum if he's still on the saints. he literally can't

The 1.210 mil they would save by cutting him is his salary for 2024 on his current deal. His cap number is much higher due to money paid previously as signing bonus. 

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6 hours ago, sparky151 said:

The 1.210 mil they would save by cutting him is his salary for 2024 on his current deal. His cap number is much higher due to money paid previously as signing bonus. 

My point was that they can only save $1.2M if they cut him post-6/1. Given it’s limited benefit to 2024 cap space compared to others, like Taysom Hill for instance ($10M in 2024 cap savings with a post-6/1 cut), they almost surely won’t do that because they’ll need to use the post-6/1 cuts to have any salary flexibility at all for 2024. To cut Thomas without the post-6/1 would lead to just shy of $8M in additional cap hits for 2024, which they certainly can’t do. As such, he looks to be basically uncuttable for 2024.

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