Armbar Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 44 minutes ago, Daniel said: These are criminal. Why? A C+ is above what I would consider average. Baltimore: I love the Tez Walker pick for them. I think Wiggins is supremely overrated and the rest of the class is JAGs or dudes I’ve never heard of. Cincinnati: Love the Kris Jenkins pick. Really liked the Mckinley Jackson pick. The rest is bleh to me. Mims is a high ceiling player, but has major bust potential. Pittsburgh: Loved Payton Wilson, but the rest of the class was kinda just base hits. Nothing bad by any means, but I didn’t think they killed it. Roman Wilson is bleh to me. Cleveland: Liked Mike Hall, but not a need for the Browns now & the window is closing quickly. Love Zak Zinter. Had a 1st round grade on him, but again…a need for 2025, not 2024. Thrash is meh & the other guys are no names. I don’t see any impact players for this year. I guess I view a C+ as a “meat & potatoes, didn’t do anything stupid” drafts. Plus I hated this class. With that, it’s gonna be hard to get an A for me. Not a lot of great players to be had in my eyes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr A W Niloc Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 === 2024 NFL Draft Grades (mine & PFF's) tiebroken by Draft Capital === Rk Gr PF 2024 DC | Rk Gr PF 2024 DC | Rk Gr PF 2024 DC | Rk Gr PF 2024 DC | | | 17 B- B+ Hous 25 | 18 B- A+ Indi 19 | 21 B- B Jkvl 14 | 32 D- B Tenn 15 Before this draft, the Titans had a decent chance to win the weak AFC-South based on a ridiculously soft schedule, especially for their offense. == AFC-S Offensive Ease of Schedule Overall and by Position, Frequencies == Off 0301 QB EofS Fr | RB EofS Frequency | WR EofS Fr | TE EofS Fr || Win/Loss EoS 2024 '24 2023 |'24 2023 Rn Ps Use |'24 2023 |'24 2023 || '24-[23] | | | || 24 Indi 23 [26] 15 | 21 [31] 11 28 T20 | 16 [22] 13 | 8 [21] 16 || 11 [11] 31 Hous 21 [27] 12 | 26 [ 2] 25 30 30 | 24 [31] 7 | 24 [ 7] 13 || 28-[ 5] 30 Jkvl 26 [ 7] 5 | 24 [30] 16 25 T23 | 19 [32] 14 | 18 [19] 6 || 24-[25] 1st Tenn 9 [18] 3 | 1 [11] 21 10 16 | 11 [28] 28 | 1 [ 2] 23 || 12-[18] After the draft Tennessee will be vying for the #1 pick in the 2025 draft. Again, this division will be decided by ease of schedule. None of the AFC-South drafts were above average but Houston did at least as well with less [draft capital]. Pix PFFR DraftBz 40Yd Indianapolis College Team Pstn Dif Tall Lbs B- Rk-Rtng 15. 96.3 1-90.8 4.70 Laiatu Latu UCLA Indi Edg1 -30 6'5" 265 52. 71.9 15-85.3 4.50 Adonai Mitchell Texas Indi WR11 +6 6'4" 196 79. 72.2 13-83.6 5.20 Matt Goncalves Pittsbrg Indi OT19 +70 6'6" 330 117 65.9 32-78.0 5.00 Tanor Bortolini Wisconsin Indi OC3 -4 6'4" 310 142 73.9 24-81.7 4.39 Anthony Gould OregonSt Indi WR21 -21 5'8" 172 151 68.3 55-76.3 4.50 Jaylon Carlies Missouri Indi SS12 -17 6'3" 227 164 76.9 36-80.9 4.43 Jaylin Simpson Auburn Indi FS14 +10 6'1" 178 201 82.0 -- ---- 4.44 Micah Abraham Marshall Indi CB30 +13 5'9" 185 234 68.5 -- ---- 4.96 Jonah Laulu LA-Lafay Indi DT21 -25 6'5" 289 Pix PFFR DraftBz 40Yd Houston Texans College Team Pstn Dif Tall Lbs B- Rk-Rtng 42. 85.4 7-87.5 4.58 Kamari Lassiter Georgia Hous CB6 -57 6'0" 180 59. 71.1 15-83.7 5.35 Blake Fisher NotreDame Hous OT11 -45 6'6" 310 78. 71.5 4-86.4 4.55 Calen Bullock USC Hous FS4 +16 6'3" 190 123 75.6 3-83.9 4.55 Cade Stover Ohio St Hous TE8 -36 6'4" 251 188 68.9 86-57.4 4.46 Jamal Hill Oregon Hous LB16 -53 6'0" 216 205 87.9 27-76.0 4.56 Jawhar Jordan Louisvil Hous RB18 -41 5'10 193 238 81.0 52-75.5 5.02 Solomon Byrd USC Hous Ed20 +16 6'3" 225 247 82.4 19-81.1 5.06 Marcus Harris Auburn Hous DT24 +10 6'2" 286 249 55.0 32-80.2 5.20 LaDrs Henderson Michigan Hous OT32 -51 6'4" 315 Pix PFFR DraftBz 40Yd Jacksonville College Team Pstn Dif Tall Lbs B- Rk-Rtng 23. 74.2 14-85.4 4.47 Brian Thomas Jr LSU Jkvl WR4 +2 6'4" 205 48. 65.3 6-84.2 4.80 Maason Smith LSU Jkvl DT6 +2 6'6" 315 96. 90.1 15-82.5 4.49 Jarrian Jones FloridaSt Jkvl CB13 -59 6'0" 191 114 84.4 6-82.3 5.20 ~Javon Foster Missouri Jkvl OT21 -17 6'5" 319 116 83.6 19-79.4 4.70 Jordan Jefferson LSU Jkvl NT13 +2 6'4" 317 153 76.2 65-75.1 4.38 Deantre Prince Ole Miss Jkvl CB23 -25 6'0" 185 167 85.8 29-75.9 4.42 Keilan Robinson Texas Jkvl RB14 +6 5'8" 191 212 ---- -- ---- ---- Cam Little Arkansas Jkvl P4 +51 ---- --- 236 ---- 38-79.2 4.67 Myles Cole TexasTech Jkvl Ed19 +42 6'6" 280 Pix PFFR DraftBz 40Yd Tennessee Titans College Team Pstn Dif Tall Lbs D- Rk-Rtng 7th 81.9 14-88.5 4.85 J.C. Lathan Alabama Tenn RT2 -9 6'6" 335 38. 91.7 1-85.9 5.05 T'Vondre Sweat Texas Tenn NT4 +6 6'4" 362 106 74.0 7-83.1 4.64 Cedric Gray NCarolina Tenn LB7 -18 6'2" 235 146 77.9 25-83.0 4.54 Jarvis Brownlee Louisvil Tenn CB21 -41 5'10 194 182 74.1 29-79.9 4.42 Jha'Quan Jackson Tulane Tenn WR25 -84 5'9" 188 242 74.3 12-81.9 4.46 James Williams Miami FL Tenn FS19 -15 6'5" 215 252 ---- 43-78.3 4.68 Jaylen Harrell Michigan Tenn Ed21 -51 6'4" 250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 2 hours ago, Dr A W Niloc said: === 2024 NFL Draft Grades (mine & PFF's) tiebroken by Draft Capital === Rk Gr PF 2024 DC | Rk Gr PF 2024 DC | Rk Gr PF 2024 DC | Rk Gr PF 2024 DC | | | 17 B- B+ Hous 25 | 18 B- A+ Indi 19 | 21 B- B Jkvl 14 | 32 D- B Tenn 15 Before this draft, the Titans had a decent chance to win the weak AFC-South based on a ridiculously soft schedule, especially for their offense. == AFC-S Offensive Ease of Schedule Overall and by Position, Frequencies == Off 0301 QB EofS Fr | RB EofS Frequency | WR EofS Fr | TE EofS Fr || Win/Loss EoS 2024 '24 2023 |'24 2023 Rn Ps Use |'24 2023 |'24 2023 || '24-[23] | | | || 24 Indi 23 [26] 15 | 21 [31] 11 28 T20 | 16 [22] 13 | 8 [21] 16 || 11 [11] 31 Hous 21 [27] 12 | 26 [ 2] 25 30 30 | 24 [31] 7 | 24 [ 7] 13 || 28-[ 5] 30 Jkvl 26 [ 7] 5 | 24 [30] 16 25 T23 | 19 [32] 14 | 18 [19] 6 || 24-[25] 1st Tenn 9 [18] 3 | 1 [11] 21 10 16 | 11 [28] 28 | 1 [ 2] 23 || 12-[18] After the draft Tennessee will be vying for the #1 pick in the 2025 draft. Again, this division will be decided by ease of schedule. None of the AFC-South drafts were above average but Houston did at least as well with less [draft capital]. Pix PFFR DraftBz 40Yd Indianapolis College Team Pstn Dif Tall Lbs B- Rk-Rtng 15. 96.3 1-90.8 4.70 Laiatu Latu UCLA Indi Edg1 -30 6'5" 265 52. 71.9 15-85.3 4.50 Adonai Mitchell Texas Indi WR11 +6 6'4" 196 79. 72.2 13-83.6 5.20 Matt Goncalves Pittsbrg Indi OT19 +70 6'6" 330 117 65.9 32-78.0 5.00 Tanor Bortolini Wisconsin Indi OC3 -4 6'4" 310 142 73.9 24-81.7 4.39 Anthony Gould OregonSt Indi WR21 -21 5'8" 172 151 68.3 55-76.3 4.50 Jaylon Carlies Missouri Indi SS12 -17 6'3" 227 164 76.9 36-80.9 4.43 Jaylin Simpson Auburn Indi FS14 +10 6'1" 178 201 82.0 -- ---- 4.44 Micah Abraham Marshall Indi CB30 +13 5'9" 185 234 68.5 -- ---- 4.96 Jonah Laulu LA-Lafay Indi DT21 -25 6'5" 289 Pix PFFR DraftBz 40Yd Houston Texans College Team Pstn Dif Tall Lbs B- Rk-Rtng 42. 85.4 7-87.5 4.58 Kamari Lassiter Georgia Hous CB6 -57 6'0" 180 59. 71.1 15-83.7 5.35 Blake Fisher NotreDame Hous OT11 -45 6'6" 310 78. 71.5 4-86.4 4.55 Calen Bullock USC Hous FS4 +16 6'3" 190 123 75.6 3-83.9 4.55 Cade Stover Ohio St Hous TE8 -36 6'4" 251 188 68.9 86-57.4 4.46 Jamal Hill Oregon Hous LB16 -53 6'0" 216 205 87.9 27-76.0 4.56 Jawhar Jordan Louisvil Hous RB18 -41 5'10 193 238 81.0 52-75.5 5.02 Solomon Byrd USC Hous Ed20 +16 6'3" 225 247 82.4 19-81.1 5.06 Marcus Harris Auburn Hous DT24 +10 6'2" 286 249 55.0 32-80.2 5.20 LaDrs Henderson Michigan Hous OT32 -51 6'4" 315 Pix PFFR DraftBz 40Yd Jacksonville College Team Pstn Dif Tall Lbs B- Rk-Rtng 23. 74.2 14-85.4 4.47 Brian Thomas Jr LSU Jkvl WR4 +2 6'4" 205 48. 65.3 6-84.2 4.80 Maason Smith LSU Jkvl DT6 +2 6'6" 315 96. 90.1 15-82.5 4.49 Jarrian Jones FloridaSt Jkvl CB13 -59 6'0" 191 114 84.4 6-82.3 5.20 ~Javon Foster Missouri Jkvl OT21 -17 6'5" 319 116 83.6 19-79.4 4.70 Jordan Jefferson LSU Jkvl NT13 +2 6'4" 317 153 76.2 65-75.1 4.38 Deantre Prince Ole Miss Jkvl CB23 -25 6'0" 185 167 85.8 29-75.9 4.42 Keilan Robinson Texas Jkvl RB14 +6 5'8" 191 212 ---- -- ---- ---- Cam Little Arkansas Jkvl P4 +51 ---- --- 236 ---- 38-79.2 4.67 Myles Cole TexasTech Jkvl Ed19 +42 6'6" 280 Pix PFFR DraftBz 40Yd Tennessee Titans College Team Pstn Dif Tall Lbs D- Rk-Rtng 7th 81.9 14-88.5 4.85 J.C. Lathan Alabama Tenn RT2 -9 6'6" 335 38. 91.7 1-85.9 5.05 T'Vondre Sweat Texas Tenn NT4 +6 6'4" 362 106 74.0 7-83.1 4.64 Cedric Gray NCarolina Tenn LB7 -18 6'2" 235 146 77.9 25-83.0 4.54 Jarvis Brownlee Louisvil Tenn CB21 -41 5'10 194 182 74.1 29-79.9 4.42 Jha'Quan Jackson Tulane Tenn WR25 -84 5'9" 188 242 74.3 12-81.9 4.46 James Williams Miami FL Tenn FS19 -15 6'5" 215 252 ---- 43-78.3 4.68 Jaylen Harrell Michigan Tenn Ed21 -51 6'4" 250 In what universe did the Titans have a good chance at winning the AFCS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DM316 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 On 4/30/2024 at 8:29 PM, tyler735 said: Atlanta- D It’s no secret they had the most questionable 1st round pick in this draft. I actually like Penix and thought he was a top 15 caliber pick, but to draft him 8th overall a couple months after signing Cousins to a huge deal is just terrible resource management. The only reason this draft isn’t an F is because I actually like Penix as a prospect, but the decision making to draft him is truly bizarre. Ruke Orhorhoho was a big reach and even worse trading up for him and passing on Jer’Zhan Newton for him. Bralon Trice was a decent pick but I’d have preferred just going with some of the other options on the board. Some quality WR and LB’s that were better caliber players that I thought could have helped them out more. Felt like Jeremiah Trotter, Jaylan Ford, and Edefuan Ulofoshio were better options than JD Bertrand at LB in the 5th round. I would have taken Brenden Rice over Casey Washington. Overall, it really was just puzzling draft to many on many different levels. These were my most common outcomes doing mocks for Atlanta mixed with who was actually still available through 5. Obviously one position effecting another, and I put them where I would have been fine taking them so a lot of players slid for me. SMH ..... 1. Latu/Turner/Murphy/Mitchell 2. Melton/TJ Tampa/Fringe 1st round receiver that slides (Pearsall, McConkey, Mitchell) so Mitchell in this case/Adisa Isaac or Kneeland 3a.& 3b. Dewayne Carter/Kiran Amegadjie/Khyree Jackson/Tez Walker/Dorlus/Jaden Hicks/Booker 4. DTD/Rattler/Javon Baker/Cam Hart/Decamarion Richardson/Abrams-Draine 5-7. If Rattler was gone or not selected Pratt/Travis then depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indifference Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Saints - B+ Kool-Aid was a steal in the second round for them. Fits Dennis Allen aggressive scheme to a T. I Taliese Fuaga is going to be a beast. I don't really see any weakness in his game, he is going to be a good NFL player for a long time. Rest of their class are developmental but they got 2 impact starters. Panthers - B Legette, Sanders, Brooks, Wallace were good hauls. I don't think any of them are going to be perennial stars in the league but still good building blocks moving forward. Legette has #1 ability and fills huge need for them there to stretch the field. The upside is there for him to make several pro bowls. Falcons - C Thought they were going to go EDGE first pick. Would've had a perfect off-season if they were able to do that. Instead, Penix will have to wait 1-2 years to get his turn. When they could of used somebody that can help them go deep into the playoffs. I think Penix will be good when he finally gets his shot. Ruke is a boom or bust type DT, his ceiling is pretty high with his quickness and disruptiveness. Thought Newton would be a better pick though. Never thought highly of Trice or Dolorus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr A W Niloc Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 14 hours ago, Daniel said: In what universe did the Titans have a good chance at winning the AFCS? Fair question. We bear in mind that the AFC-South is not a strong division. A flatfile aggregate of individual rankings, even after their dismal draft, shows Tennessee with the best (these are ordinals so the lower the number the better) overall "talent", especially on defence, in this tight, below average foursome: Draft Capital & Grades, PFF Ttls Draft Ovrl Raw Raw Rk Gr PF 2024 DC PFFR-Def-Off 17 B- B+ Hous 25 965 647 318 18 B- A+ Indi 19 981 633 348 21 B- B Jkvl 14 998 613 385 32 D- B Tenn 15 952 548 404 Of course, the problem with flatfiles is that some positions are far more important than others. The Jags and Texans have astoundingly better proven quantities at QB. The brief glimpses we've seen of Anthony Richardson and [gulp!] Will Levis (who may be a downgrade from Gardner Minshew!) were cringeworthy. The Colts hope experience and good health will help while Titans fans rely on starter reps for Levis. Color me skeptical. As with Indianapolis, Tennessee will concentrate on the ground game (and their division best defense). They have two top 20 rated RBs in Tyjae Spears (PFF:18th) and the full Tony Pollard (15th after a down season). All five Tennessee (r32-29-10-21-34) OLs are ranked in the top 35. In poorish, close divisions the deciding factor is usually Ease of Schedule. This, incidentally, is how geeks knew Houston would win the AFC-South last year, albeit with only 10 wins, and why the Texans figure to struggle a bit this year. ====== Offensive Ease of Schedule Overall and by Position, Frequencies ===== Off 0301 QB EofS Fr | RB EofS Frequency | WR EofS Fr | TE EofS Fr || Win/Loss EoS 2024 '24 2023 |'24 2023 Rn Ps Use |'24 2023 |'24 2023 || '24-[23] | | | || 1st Tenn 9 [18] 3 | 1 [11] 21 10 16 | 11 [28] 28 | 1 [ 2] 23 || 12-[18] 24 Indi 23 [26] 15 | 21 [31] 11 28 T20 | 16 [22] 13 | 8 [21] 16 || 11 [11] 30 Jkvl 26 [ 7] 5 | 24 [30] 16 25 T23 | 19 [32] 14 | 18 [19] 6 || 24-[25] 31 Hous 21 [27] 12 | 26 [ 2] 25 30 30 | 24 [31] 7 | 24 [ 7] 13 || 28-[ 5] The Win/Loss based Ease of Schedule narrows it down to Indi and Tennessee (who had decent draft capital), adding that Jacksonville did remarkably well with a tough schedule last year. With the "best" defence in the division, we zoom in on Tennessee's offensive EOS, which favors them decisively. But wait, it gets better: Not only do the Titans have the softest overall offensive schedule, it is flimsiest at the one position where the Titans excel: RB. This is why so many stats freaks favored Tennessee before the draft. Those Will Levis stans who exist and others who take a rosier view of their draft than I--they did land a good LT and NT--still like the Titans' chances. There is this fly in the ointment: Coaching remains an issue in Tennessee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 6 minutes ago, Dr A W Niloc said: Fair question. We bear in mind that the AFC-South is not a strong division. A flatfile aggregate of individual rankings, even after their dismal draft, shows Tennessee with the best (these are ordinals so the lower the number the better) overall "talent", especially on defence, in this tight, below average foursome: Draft Capital & Grades, PFF Ttls Draft Ovrl Raw Raw Rk Gr PF 2024 DC PFFR-Def-Off 17 B- B+ Hous 25 965 647 318 18 B- A+ Indi 19 981 633 348 21 B- B Jkvl 14 998 613 385 32 D- B Tenn 15 952 548 404 Of course, the problem with flatfiles is that some positions are far more important than others. The Jags and Texans have astoundingly better proven quantities at QB. The brief glimpses we've seen of Anthony Richardson and [gulp!] Will Levis (who may be a downgrade from Gardner Minshew!) were cringeworthy. The Colts hope experience and good health will help while Titans fans rely on starter reps for Levis. Color me skeptical. As with Indianapolis, Tennessee will concentrate on the ground game (and their division best defense). They have two top 20 rated RBs in Tyjae Spears (PFF:18th) and the full Tony Pollard (15th after a down season). All five Tennessee (r32-29-10-21-34) OLs are ranked in the top 35. In poorish, close divisions the deciding factor is usually Ease of Schedule. This, incidentally, is how geeks knew Houston would win the AFC-South last year, albeit with only 10 wins, and why the Texans figure to struggle a bit this year. ====== Offensive Ease of Schedule Overall and by Position, Frequencies ===== Off 0301 QB EofS Fr | RB EofS Frequency | WR EofS Fr | TE EofS Fr || Win/Loss EoS 2024 '24 2023 |'24 2023 Rn Ps Use |'24 2023 |'24 2023 || '24-[23] | | | || 1st Tenn 9 [18] 3 | 1 [11] 21 10 16 | 11 [28] 28 | 1 [ 2] 23 || 12-[18] 24 Indi 23 [26] 15 | 21 [31] 11 28 T20 | 16 [22] 13 | 8 [21] 16 || 11 [11] 30 Jkvl 26 [ 7] 5 | 24 [30] 16 25 T23 | 19 [32] 14 | 18 [19] 6 || 24-[25] 31 Hous 21 [27] 12 | 26 [ 2] 25 30 30 | 24 [31] 7 | 24 [ 7] 13 || 28-[ 5] The Win/Loss based Ease of Schedule narrows it down to Indi and Tennessee (who had decent draft capital), adding that Jacksonville did remarkably well with a tough schedule last year. With the "best" defence in the division, we zoom in on Tennessee's offensive EOS, which favors them decisively. But wait, it gets better: Not only do the Titans have the softest overall offensive schedule, it is flimsiest at the one position where the Titans excel: RB. This is why so many stats freaks favored Tennessee before the draft. Those Will Levis stans who exist and others who take a rosier view of their draft than I--they did land a good LT and NT--still like the Titans' chances. There is this fly in the ointment: Coaching remains an issue in Tennessee. I would probably throw these two things out, honestly. Titans were excelling at RB, but there's been a complete changing of the guard there, both in the personnel and how the offense is going to function, especially in the running game. On paper, it looks like Spears and Pollard are a strong combo, but they're also kind of the same kind of player, and it remains to be seen how Spears will fare without Henry there. And for coaching, that's also new. And our position coaching looks to be way stronger, especially along the offensive line, but of course, everything's new, so I treat it as a big question mark. I don't think the Titans did much to move the needle through the draft. They addressed the biggest hole (LT), which everyone knew they would do, and they added some pieces to the defense. I still think they're a year away from contending, because we've got a new OL, which usually takes time to gel, we have a whole new coaching staff, and are strong on paper in some positions (RB, CB, C, WR to a degree), but still have some pretty big holes (DL depth, Edge, and a few OL spots stand out), and most importantly, a young QB who has shown flashes of potentially being great, but also flashes of things to be concerned about. Titans could very well win the division, but if they do, it's going to be because a lot of free agent additions and rookie players overperform, or because Levis just shows up as like a top 10 QB, similar to what happened with the Texans last year. If anyone's betting on them, it's really a shot in the dark imo, because I don't think there's a very good reason to do so objectively. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr A W Niloc Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 2 hours ago, Daniel said: On paper, it looks like Spears and Pollard are a strong combo, but they're also kind of the same kind of player, and it remains to be seen how Spears will fare without Henry there. I agree that the Titans will have to use their RBs differently [and run more than 21st]. If 5'10, 200 pound Spears can't be the N-S guy then 6'2", 228 lbs Hassan Haskins or 5'11", 228 lbs Julius Chestnut (PFF:#57th) can step in. As it is, the defence will need to keep games close. Like you, I'm a little more optimistic--okay, less pessimistic--about the new coaching. Personally, I've been high on Will Levis (and Detroit's Hendon Hooker, FWIW) but most FF nerds are less impressed. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 I think the Eagles had a very good draft, Washington picked the wrong QB but had a fantastic day 2, and Dallas had a solid draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 I actually posted this in the other Draft Grade thread, but I may as well put it here as well (for comparison, I gave the Titans a C): Houston: C, I liked Lassiter, Fisher, and Stover, but none were big steals, and the first three players they picked have a pretty big question mark (Fisher needs work, Lassiter tested very poorly, and Bullock is really sleight). Still, came away with a lot of talent in those first four picks, with no firsts. Pretty meh on everything after though. Colts: C+, I still think Latu is a big fat bust waiting to happen, but Mitchell was a huge steal, though likely because he's a headcase, and Goncalves, Bortolini, Gould, and Carlies are all players I like, but again, I don't think they got crazy value. Mitchell was the biggest steal by far, and a mid-first round talent. Jaguars: B, I love the fit of Brian Thomas, but after that, things are sketchier. Both LSU DTs were reaches, but both will have roles, and getting the teammates is a plus, Jarrian Jones and Javon Foster are quality midrounders, Cam Little was the best kicker prospect, and Myles Cole was a steal. They get lower grades for Day 2, but trading down and landing Thomas still makes theirs the best draft in the AFCS. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetjuice Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 4 hours ago, Daniel said: Colts: C+, I still think Latu is a big fat bust waiting to happen Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 52 minutes ago, jetjuice said: Why? Completely shut out by every good tackle he faced this year. I don’t think he’s going to be an out of the league in three years type, just going to underperform his whole career. Injuries might be a problem too, but that’s not why I am super low on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armbar Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 6 minutes ago, Daniel said: Completely shut out by every good tackle he faced this year. I don’t think he’s going to be an out of the league in three years type, just going to underperform his whole career. Injuries might be a problem too, but that’s not why I am super low on him. He’s way different than Jaball Sheard as a prospect, but I expect similar levels of success. Couple years as a solid player, but never awesome. With that said, I think that’s gonna be true for a ton of the guys in this draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football_Bachelor08 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Arizona: A- San Francisco: B Seattle: B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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