VikeManDan Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 1 minute ago, swede700 said: Bullard definitely because he was their best DL last year. I'm 34 and my memory is terrible but I just don't recall anyone popping on the DL last year. They did re-sign him which is a mark in his favor. If anything he's at least a known quantity in this defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle2heaven Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 11 minutes ago, swede700 said: Phillips, Roy and Bullard are guaranteed to make the roster. Bullard definitely because he was their best DL last year. After those 3, it's a crapshoot. I dont think Bullard is guaranteed. He has minimal guaranteed money, is already 30 and looked worst last year, than the year prior. Tillery has the biggest guarantee out of the DL they have brought in this year, was signed in the first week of free agency, and has the highest pass rushing upside out of this group. I think they like Tillery a lot, or at least see something more they can get out of his physical traits and 1st round draft capital. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle2heaven Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 11 minutes ago, VikeManDan said: I'm 34 and my memory is terrible but I just don't recall anyone popping on the DL last year. They did re-sign him which is a mark in his favor. If anything he's at least a known quantity in this defense. they re-signed him but the money tells you they wont think twice to cut him if something better comes along. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted May 15 Author Share Posted May 15 33 minutes ago, battle2heaven said: they re-signed him but the money tells you they wont think twice to cut him if something better comes along. Anything's possible since he no longer has Chris Rumph as his ally, but I'd still be immensely surprised, because they've seemed to have supported him at every turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 what's going on with all the tight end signings? first the Chile guy and now Tonyan? i get it, Hock isn't starting Week 1, but didn't we already have four other TE's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 12 hours ago, vike daddy said: what's going on with all the tight end signings? first the Chile guy and now Tonyan? i get it, Hock isn't starting Week 1, but didn't we already have four other TE's? Good question, I'm not exactly sure. Maybe something to do with the new kickoff? I thought Nick Muse was very impressive last season. I imagine Hock will start the season on the PUP which puts him out for the first 4 weeks. Roster locks: THock, J. Oliver, and J. Mundt Battling for TE4: N. Muse, T. Knox, S. Reyes, and R. Tonyan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted May 17 Author Share Posted May 17 1 hour ago, VikeManDan said: Good question, I'm not exactly sure. Maybe something to do with the new kickoff? I thought Nick Muse was very impressive last season. I imagine Hock will start the season on the PUP which puts him out for the first 4 weeks. Roster locks: THock, J. Oliver, and J. Mundt Battling for TE4: N. Muse, T. Knox, S. Reyes, and R. Tonyan It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they decide to keep an extra TE for ST purposes...the same could be said for keeping an extra LB. Without necessarily needing speed on kickoffs any longer, they're probably going to need guys with greater agility and power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 I have no faith in Cine or Booth, but the rest should be fun to watch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle2heaven Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 On 5/16/2024 at 9:49 PM, vike daddy said: what's going on with all the tight end signings? first the Chile guy and now Tonyan? i get it, Hock isn't starting Week 1, but didn't we already have four other TE's? So the international guy doesn’t count on the 90 man. now they have 6 on the 90 man. If you scan the 90 man rosters across the league, 6 is pretty average! so seems normal to me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Quarterback (3) QB1: Sam Darnold QB2: J.J. McCarthy QB3: Jaren Hall Out: Nick Mullens Running Back (3) RB1: Aaron Jones RB2: Ty Chandler RB3: Kene Nwangwu Out: DeWayne McBride | Myles Gaskin Fullback (1) FB1: C.J. Ham Wide Receiver (5) WR1: Justin Jefferson WR2: Jordan Addison WR3: Brandon Powell WR4: Trent Sherfield WR5: Jalen Nailor Out: Lucky Jackson | Malik Knowles | Thayer Thomas | Trishton Jackson | N’Keal Harry | Ty James | Jeshaun Jones | Devron Harper Tight End (3) TE1: T.J. Hockenson (PUP) TE2: Josh Oliver TE3: Robert Tonyan TE4: Johnny Mundt Out: Nick Muse | Trey Knox | Sammis Reyes Left Tackle (2) LT1: Christian Darrisaw LT2: Walter Rouse Out: Doug Nester Right Tackle (2) RT1: Brian O’Neill RT2: David Quessenberry Out: Spencer Rolland Center (2) C1: Garrett Bradbury C2: Michael Jurgens Out: Matthew Cindric Left Guard (1) LG1: Blake Brandel Out: Henry Byrd | Tyrese Robinson Right Guard (2) RG1: Ed Ingram RG2: Dan Feeney Out: Jeremy Flax Outside Linebacker (5) OLB1: Jonathan Greenard OLB2: Dallas Turner OLB3: Andrew Van Ginkel OLB4: Andre Carter II OLB5: Gabriel Murphy Out: Jihad Ward | Patrick Jones II | Owen Porter | Bo Richter Defensive End (5) DE1: James Lynch DE2: Jerry Tillery DE3: Jonathan Bullard DE4: Jaquelin Roy DE5: Levi Drake Rodriguez Out: Jonah Williams | Tyler Manoa Nose Tackle (1) NT1: Harrison Phillips Out: Taki Taimani Middle Linebacker (2) MLB1: Ivan Pace Jr. MLB2: Kamu Grugier-Hill Out: Abraham Beauplan | Dallas Gant Weakside Linebacker (2) WLB1: Blake Cashman WLB2: Brian Asamoah Out: KJ Cloyd Cornerback (6) CB1: Byron Murphy CB2: Mekhi Blackmon CB3: Shaquill Griffin CB4: Andrew Booth CB5: Khyree Jackson CB6: NaJee Thompson Out: Akayleb Evans | Jaylin Williams | A.J. Green III | Dwight McGlothern Safety (5) S1: Harrison Smith S2: Camryn Bynum S3: Josh Metellus S4: Lewis Cine S5: Jay Ward Out: Theo Jackson Kicker (1) K1: Will Reichard Out: Parker Romo Punter (1) P1: Ryan Wright Out: Seth Vernon Long Snapper (1) LS: Andrew DePaola Kick Returner KR1: Kene Nwangwu KR2: Ty Chandler Punt Returner PR1: Brandon Powell https://vikingsterritory.com/2024/news/top_news/vikings-projected-starters-in-2024-pre-minicamp?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 3 hours ago, vike daddy said: Quarterback (3) QB1: Sam Darnold QB2: J.J. McCarthy QB3: Jaren Hall Out: Nick Mullens Running Back (3) RB1: Aaron Jones RB2: Ty Chandler RB3: Kene Nwangwu Out: DeWayne McBride | Myles Gaskin Fullback (1) FB1: C.J. Ham Wide Receiver (5) WR1: Justin Jefferson WR2: Jordan Addison WR3: Brandon Powell WR4: WR5: Jalen Nailor Out: Lucky Jackson | Malik Knowles | Thayer Thomas | Trishton Jackson | N’Keal Harry | Ty James | Jeshaun Jones | Devron Harper Tight End (3) TE1: T.J. Hockenson (PUP) TE2: Josh Oliver TE3: Robert Tonyan TE4: Johnny Mundt Out: Nick Muse | Trey Knox | Sammis Reyes Left Tackle (2) LT1: Christian Darrisaw LT2: Walter Rouse Out: Doug Nester Right Tackle (2) RT1: Brian O’Neill RT2: David Quessenberry Out: Spencer Rolland Center (2) C1: Garrett Bradbury C2: Michael Jurgens Out: Matthew Cindric Left Guard (1) LG1: Blake Brandel Out: Henry Byrd | Tyrese Robinson Right Guard (2) RG1: Ed Ingram RG2: Dan Feeney Out: Jeremy Flax Outside Linebacker (5) OLB1: Jonathan Greenard OLB2: Dallas Turner OLB3: Andrew Van Ginkel OLB4: Andre Carter II OLB5: Gabriel Murphy Out: Jihad Ward | Patrick Jones II | Owen Porter | Bo Richter Defensive End (5) DE1: James Lynch DE2: Jerry Tillery DE3: Jonathan Bullard DE4: Jaquelin Roy DE5: Levi Drake Rodriguez Out: Jonah Williams | Tyler Manoa Nose Tackle (1) NT1: Harrison Phillips Out: Taki Taimani Middle Linebacker (2) MLB1: Ivan Pace Jr. MLB2: Kamu Grugier-Hill Out: Abraham Beauplan | Dallas Gant Weakside Linebacker (2) WLB1: Blake Cashman WLB2: Brian Asamoah Out: KJ Cloyd Cornerback (6) CB1: Byron Murphy CB2: Mekhi Blackmon CB3: Shaquill Griffin CB4: Andrew Booth CB5: Khyree Jackson CB6: NaJee Thompson Out: Akayleb Evans | Jaylin Williams | A.J. Green III | Dwight McGlothern Safety (5) S1: Harrison Smith S2: Camryn Bynum S3: Josh Metellus S4: Lewis Cine S5: Jay Ward Out: Theo Jackson Kicker (1) K1: Will Reichard Out: Parker Romo Punter (1) P1: Ryan Wright Out: Seth Vernon Long Snapper (1) LS: Andrew DePaola Kick Returner KR1: Kene Nwangwu KR2: Ty Chandler Punt Returner PR1: Brandon Powell https://vikingsterritory.com/2024/news/top_news/vikings-projected-starters-in-2024-pre-minicamp?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook How is Jihad Ward being cut over Rodriguez? To call Ward only a OLB and not a DE is an insult, dude is 6-5 285 yeah he can play DE/edge in this system. Even Roy making it over Ward would be a surprise, Ward is a solid player that they need on the front considering his versatility and experience. Also keep Booth and cut Evans? That would be a surprise. Also if Jackson cannot beat out Booth at CB that is just sad. Also not sure how Nester is considering an OT when really he should be the backup OG along with Feeney. And Richter should be considered a ILB and depending on what he shows I would take him over what they got as the backup or even over Asamoah. at WLB. But he will have to progress in what he can do and show he is not just an edge rusher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle2heaven Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) 19 hours ago, Ozzy said: And Richter should be considered a ILB and depending on what he shows I would take him over what they got as the backup or even over Asamoah. at WLB. But he will have to progress in what he can do and show he is not just an edge rusher. Vikings have him as an OLB and he was practicing with the edge group during rookie mini camp. While I agree, I would love to see if he could be a ILB downhill thumper, it might just not be in the cards for him from an instincts standpoint in play diagnosing. Also, interesting enough, he only got 15k guaranteed on his UDFA contract. So the NFL as a whole, does not value him that highly. To comparison, Murphy got 245k, and last year pace and carter got 236k and 340k. Edited May 20 by battle2heaven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 That WR group behind JJ and Addison is bleak. Powell is at best average. I'd still like to see Gant and McGothern make it. Rooting for Pat Jones but I think the writing is on the wall for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinceAtikevike Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) 4 minutes ago, SteelKing728 said: That WR group behind JJ and Addison is bleak. Powell is at best average. I'd still like to see Gant and McGothern make it. Rooting for Pat Jones but I think the writing is on the wall for him. Yes, but those top two are soooooo good. No NFL roster is 5 deep at wideout; meaning that the Vikings 3rd-Nth WR is approximately as good as the rest of the league's 3rd-Nth WR. Edited May 20 by sinceAtikevike 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle2heaven Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 minute ago, SteelKing728 said: That WR group behind JJ and Addison is bleak. Powell is at best average. I'd still like to see Gant and McGothern make it. Rooting for Pat Jones but I think the writing is on the wall for him. I thought Powell made some nice plays last year as the #3 guy. I still have hopes for Nailor if he can stay healthy. I wouldn't be opposed to bringing in a vet WR. Let's see how it shakes out. Not too enamored with anyone available right now. I think Beauplan has the advantage over Gant. They brought him back this offseason after he was injured and waived last year. McGlothern might just be a fan myth due to his high UDFA ranking and PFF grades. NFL teams did not see the potential that we think he might have, hence him only getting 30k guaranteed as a UDFA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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