Armbar Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 6 minutes ago, RedandPewterReturns said: It's one thing to bring the talent in but I don't agree he's developing talent I think it’s moreso the physical development. Penn Stare pumps out superfreaks every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedandPewterReturns Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 29 minutes ago, Armbar said: I think it’s moreso the physical development. Penn Stare pumps out superfreaks every year. And they underperform every year. There's a reason Penn state alumni and diehard fans want him gone. Atleast 2/3's of the fanbase I'd say. Can't pump out super freaks and never beat Ohio state and Michigan when it counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 I feel like Weigman is the prospect who is being way overhyped right now at this point in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armbar Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 4 hours ago, Danger said: I feel like Weigman is the prospect who is being way overhyped right now at this point in the process. Rly? I think he’s gonna be pretty brutal, but I haven’t seen him ranked highly. He isn’t good and he’s on a team where the whole offense is essentially RPO. I am not a believer, but I figured the NFL was down on him too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 1 hour ago, Armbar said: Rly? I think he’s gonna be pretty brutal, but I haven’t seen him ranked highly. He isn’t good and he’s on a team where the whole offense is essentially RPO. I am not a believer, but I figured the NFL was down on him too. I'm seeing some people having him as their QB1. Certain people who work for PFF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armbar Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 2 hours ago, Danger said: I'm seeing some people having him as their QB1. Certain people who work for PFF. 🫨 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 On 6/5/2024 at 10:17 AM, Danger said: I feel like Weigman is the prospect who is being way overhyped right now at this point in the process. *Donovan Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 4 minutes ago, Texansfan713 said: *Donovan Smith You're a Houston guy aren't you? I usually see folks putting him in the QB7-10 range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 1 hour ago, Texansfan713 said: *Donovan Smith In a class without a consensus QB1 prospect, there are always going to be guys people choose who they think can take the next step and become that guy. I think Smith is as good a choice as any. You can call it overhyped, but I don't anyone is saying "he's a first round pick right now!". They're just saying he's got that type of potential. (I'm one of these people lol). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 1 hour ago, Danger said: You're a Houston guy aren't you? I usually see folks putting him in the QB7-10 range. Yeah I am. I saw a mock that had him as a first round prospect, and I was trying to figure out "based on what?" If Willie Fritz can turn him into a legit prospect after 1 season then he is a miracle worker lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 There are quite a few old prospects at QB this year as well. DJ Ugaleilei, Gabriel, Van Dyke, Shough, Daniels and KJ Jefferson. All of them look like late day 3/UDFA types to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armbar Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 28 minutes ago, SteelKing728 said: There are quite a few old prospects at QB this year as well. DJ Ugaleilei, Gabriel, Van Dyke, Shough, Daniels and KJ Jefferson. All of them look like late day 3/UDFA types to me. I loved Tyler Shough 2 years ago. Didn’t watch last season. High upside despite not having any mobility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 31 minutes ago, SteelKing728 said: There are quite a few old prospects at QB this year as well. DJ Ugaleilei, Gabriel, Van Dyke, Shough, Daniels and KJ Jefferson. All of them look like late day 3/UDFA types to me. If one is talking 5th year players or RS SR players these guys are also all 5th year guys or beyond. Ward, Rising, Mertz, McCall and Howard could all have really good years. Smith is super talented but so is TJ Finley in terms of big guys with big arms. But clearly a ton of them returned to school when some were already a 5th year player, so they are taking full advantage of that. Cameron Ward Miami FL RS Cameron Rising Utah RS Graham Mertz Florida RS Grayson McCall NC State RS Will Howard Ohio State RS Hudson Card Purdue RS Jaxson Dart Ole Miss RS TJ Finley Western Kentucky RS Donovan Smith Houston RS Will Rogers Washington RS Max Johnson UNC RS Hank Bachmeier Wake Forest RS Gerry Bohanon BYU RS Payton Thorne Auburn RS Ryan Hilinski Northwestern RS Jayden de Laura Texas State RS Cade McNamara Iowa RS Taisun Phommachanh UMASS RS But yes of course not all of them will be drafted, on this list I have 6th guys out of this list being drafted possibly. That could change of course but clearly only 10-12 QBs will be selected. 11 were selected last year and a potential stud like Michael Pratt was a freaking 7th round pick. So honestly kind of sucks to be a QB because there is so much competition but smart for guys to stick around and at least get paid in college even though the NFL might never be an option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 16 hours ago, Armbar said: I loved Tyler Shough 2 years ago. Didn’t watch last season. High upside despite not having any mobility. He's going to be a 25 year old rookie next year. My guess is he'll just be a camp arm like a lot of college QBs end up being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersForever Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 I feel like Riley Leonard will take a big step forward this season (assuming he's able to get on the field, initial reports out of ND aren't encouraging). Nothing to base that on, just a gut feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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