Malfatron Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Ragnarok said: Possible. I think it'd be idiotic for scum to do N1, but maybe. Agreed. Especially since scum doesnt know if there is a vig out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 So @bucsfan333. You have some explaining to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raves Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Just now, MathMan said: Agreed. Especially since scum doesnt know if there is a vig out there Except that exposes the vig for them to kill and they still only lose 1 member possibly 2 if the vig took a great guess like Matts did vs bcb last game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Just now, Ragnarok said: Possible. I think it'd be idiotic for scum to do N1, but maybe. Ehhh If a strong role was going to die and they have an opportunity to flip it onto someone who survives a lynch (or more) and wastes numerous civ lynches.. at which point scum hunting stops, the mafia who flipped receive civ-reads.. and the original lynch is forgotten because of a found-mafia. The people who flipped on Bucs were some of the more savvy players on this site. We can't just assume it was a "lucky" flip onto mafia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Just now, Raves said: Except that exposes the vig for them to kill and they still only lose 1 member possibly 2 if the vig took a great guess like Matts did vs bcb last game. Why would that expose the vig? The vig kills bucsfan tonight without claiming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 minute ago, MathMan said: Agreed. Especially since scum doesnt know if there is a vig out there Yeah, scum has no way to know if someone has something that could supersede that lynchproofiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, kingseanjohn said: Maybe we should go for Pats if we believe Rags theory that bucs can't be lynched yet I would only support this if someone day-kills Bucs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raves Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Just now, MathMan said: Why would that expose the vig? The vig kills bucsfan tonight without claiming. Ahhh I was thinking of it in regards to Matts role from last game. STill getting up to speed to the roles used by the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Tk3 said: We can't just assume it was a "lucky" flip onto mafia. I had a gut feel. I wouldnt exactly call it random luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Tk3 said: Ehhh If a strong role was going to die and they have an opportunity to flip it onto someone who survives a lynch (or more) and wastes numerous civ lynches.. at which point scum hunting stops, the mafia who flipped receive civ-reads.. and the original lynch is forgotten because of a found-mafia. The people who flipped on Bucs were some of the more savvy players on this site. We can't just assume it was a "lucky" flip onto mafia. The only way this really makes sense is if both Pats and md4l were scum. Otherwise, scum would've just needed to move a single vote to get one or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pats#1 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 9 minutes ago, kingseanjohn said: Maybe we should go for Pats if we believe Rags theory that bucs can't be lynched yet And what's pushing you towards me? 7 minutes ago, kingseanjohn said: Malf leading that last minute vote on bucs... Bucs, malf, pats are my top three, assuming that there are three. My reasoning for flipping to Bucs was obvious, simply trying to save myself 2 minutes ago, Tk3 said: Ehhh If a strong role was going to die and they have an opportunity to flip it onto someone who survives a lynch (or more) and wastes numerous civ lynches.. at which point scum hunting stops, the mafia who flipped receive civ-reads.. and the original lynch is forgotten because of a found-mafia. The people who flipped on Bucs were some of the more savvy players on this site. We can't just assume it was a "lucky" flip onto mafia. Same response as above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 minute ago, MathMan said: I had a gut feel. I wouldnt exactly call it random luck I had a really bad feeling about the Pats and md4l lynches and wanted just about anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Tk3 said: If a strong role was going to die and they have an opportunity to flip it onto someone who survives a lynch (or more) and wastes numerous civ lynches.. at which point scum hunting stops, the mafia who flipped receive civ-reads.. and the original lynch is forgotten because of a found-mafia. Yes, i could kind of see this happening if md4l or pats are mafia. However, it happened so last minute that im thinking most mafia just stayed out of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Just now, Ragnarok said: The only way this really makes sense is if both Pats and md4l were scum. Otherwise, scum would've just needed to move a single vote to get one or the other. Good point. I suppose the only benefit to mafia would be to try to gain a civ-read on a key member and to keep the town preoccupied from scum hunting. I just always get nervous when a scum survives a lynch, especially on a last minute flip. I'm not saying I think there was scum involved, I'm just saying that I'm not ready to clear the people who led this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pats#1 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 So there is a serial killer in this game from what a couple have said, but others are also saying "vig" which I'm guessing stands for vigilante. Are both these roles the same exact thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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