StatKing Posted Wednesday at 12:03 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:03 AM 1 hour ago, squire12 said: I'm thinking Adams is wanting out and could nurse his current hamstring injury along for a few weeks collecting his paycheck He isn't really hurt. They are putting him on ice so they can get the best return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatKing Posted Wednesday at 12:04 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:04 AM Joe Douglas should be fired if he doesn't pull this trade off. Trade whatever draft capital you have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted Wednesday at 12:06 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:06 AM 48 minutes ago, nagahide13 said: There was really nothing easy for yall to do for sure. Trade up for McCarthy or Nix was pretty much it. It would have taken a significant amount to do so, and who would want to trade up for Bo Nix anyway? I think signing Minshew and rolling with AOC was a decent move. The options weren't really there, (though I'm apparently way higher on Jameis than most and would have preferred him. Obviously Darnold too). They'll be better this upcoming offseason. At the same time though it's almost always going to be difficult to acquire a good starter / potential franchise QB. They should've traded up for Penix if they really liked him that much. It's a decent move if you're trying to win 6-8 games, we need to either go all in to be a contender or go all in to rebuild. Committing to mediocre QB play for a decade + has kept us in the worst possible spot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted Wednesday at 12:11 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:11 AM 54 minutes ago, nagahide13 said: There was really nothing easy for yall to do for sure. Trade up for McCarthy or Nix was pretty much it. It would have taken a significant amount to do so, and who would want to trade up for Bo Nix anyway? I think signing Minshew and rolling with AOC was a decent move. The options weren't really there, (though I'm apparently way higher on Jameis than most and would have preferred him. Obviously Darnold too). They'll be better this upcoming offseason. Why do you all keep doing this to me? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagahide13 Posted Wednesday at 12:14 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:14 AM (edited) 8 minutes ago, NYRaider said: At the same time though it's almost always going to be difficult to acquire a good starter / potential franchise QB. They should've traded up for Penix if they really liked him that much. It's a decent move if you're trying to win 6-8 games, we need to either go all in to be a contender or go all in to rebuild. Committing to mediocre QB play for a decade + has kept us in the worst possible spot. I think this is the year to do it. I think the Raiders should tank right now. If you trade Adams it should make it a bit easier to trade up if necessary... and I actually like the QB depth in this draft quite a bit more. I'm not sure the top 2 will project nearly as high, but after that I think it's stronger. I've never been a big Jimmy G guy and thought signing him was a huge mistake. I don't think standing pat for 1 season in the face of a bunch of bad options has been the Raider's problem thus far. I think they've taken some big swings and whiffed and trusted the wrong guys with the keys. I think taking another big swing when the options aren't very good has a lot of potential to make things worse. Edited Wednesday at 12:21 AM by nagahide13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted Wednesday at 12:21 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:21 AM 6 minutes ago, nagahide13 said: I think this is the year to do it. If you trade Adams it should make it a bit easier to trade up and I actually like the QB depth in this draft quite a bit more. I'm not sure the top 2 will project nearly as high, but after that I think it's stronger. I'm kind of meh on this years QB class and would be a little disappointed to see us trade up for one after we didn't last year in a better class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagahide13 Posted Wednesday at 12:32 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:32 AM (edited) 12 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I'm kind of meh on this years QB class and would be a little disappointed to see us trade up for one after we didn't last year in a better class. If we toss out Caleb and Jayden since they weren't available at all, I'd guess they were interested in Penix and McCarthy. Penix went way earlier than expected to a team nobody expected, so he's out. That leaves JJ McCarthy and you have to trade up to 9/10 to get him and beat the Vikings offer, all when you were hoping one of them falls to you at 13. I definitely imagine that yall wanted to trade up and the draft just fell out in the worst possible way to do so. The Penix pick left everyone reeling and McCarthy went a few minutes later. I feel a touch of that in the Bowers pick as well. All plans are off, grab the BPA Edited Wednesday at 12:33 AM by nagahide13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted Wednesday at 12:52 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:52 AM Jets have all the leverage 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted Wednesday at 12:53 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:53 AM 1 minute ago, incognito_man said: Jets have all the leverage He still has three years left on his contract and the Jets aren't the only suitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted Wednesday at 12:54 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:54 AM I’m not sure I want Adams. This whole recreate a Green Bay team that never won a Super Bowl so you can possibly win a Super Bowl is dumb IMO. They’re older, disgruntled, I just don’t like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted Wednesday at 12:54 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:54 AM 20 minutes ago, nagahide13 said: If we toss out Caleb and Jayden since they weren't available at all, I'd guess they were interested in Penix and McCarthy. Penix went way earlier than expected to a team nobody expected, so he's out. That leaves JJ McCarthy and you have to trade up to 9/10 to get him and beat the Vikings offer, all when you were hoping one of them falls to you at 13. I definitely imagine that yall wanted to trade up and the draft just fell out in the worst possible way to do so. The Penix pick left everyone reeling and McCarthy went a few minutes later. I feel a touch of that in the Bowers pick as well. All plans are off, grab the BPA Yeah it just didn't pan out well for us last year but a large part in that was that we won a bunch of meaningless games at the end of the year that tanked our draft position. And we seem committed to doing it again by signing Minshew, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted Wednesday at 12:56 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:56 AM 3 minutes ago, NYRaider said: He still has three years left on his contract and the Jets aren't the only suitor. But Joe Douglas is an elite GM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted Wednesday at 12:56 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:56 AM 2 minutes ago, KingOfNewYork said: I’m not sure I want Adams. This whole recreate a Green Bay team that never won a Super Bowl so you can possibly win a Super Bowl is dumb IMO. They’re older, disgruntled, I just don’t like it. The Jets offense probably isn't going anywhere even with the addition of Adams if Hackett's calling the plays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted Wednesday at 01:10 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:10 AM 16 minutes ago, NYRaider said: He still has three years left on his contract and the Jets aren't the only suitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted Wednesday at 01:11 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:11 AM 14 minutes ago, NYRaider said: The Jets offense probably isn't going anywhere even with the addition of Adams if Hackett's calling the plays. it is nice that you think Hackett's play calls are what actually get run 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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