Arthur Penske Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I like him, but does Derwin's 3 cone worry no one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, ArthurPensky said: I like him, but does Derwin's 3 cone worry no one? Mildly, but he looks better on the field and in actual drills. Poor training perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Does House/Tramon give us anything in the tea leaves to think Gutey is positioning himself to make a move for a pass rusher and get a CB a little later? Stand pat and take BPA rusher at 14 or as Dougherty pointed out that if Chubb were to fall to 6 or so, a trade with #45 could get you to 6 if they were willing. If Chubb is there at 6 and for some reason Indy wants to pass on im, do you do 14 + 45 for #6? That's what Dallas gave up to get Claiborne (lol). I think id do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moretti19 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, ArthurPensky said: Does House/Tramon give us anything in the tea leaves to think Gutey is positioning himself to make a move for a pass rusher and get a CB a little later? Stand pat and take BPA rusher at 14 or as Dougherty pointed out that if Chubb were to fall to 6 or so, a trade with #45 could get you to 6 if they were willing. If Chubb is there at 6 and for some reason Indy wants to pass on im, do you do 14 + 45 for #6? That's what Dallas gave up to get Claiborne (lol). I think id do it. If that is all it takes I with out a doubt would do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 22 minutes ago, ArthurPensky said: I like him, but does Derwin's 3 cone worry no one? Never been a fan of cone times, you can tell if he's athletic or not on tape, and imo he plenty is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtcheezwiz Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I see 14 being between the two edge rushers and whatever CB's are left. I could see OT as a dark horse though all depends on their grades and how the board shakes out (no s**t). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Gopackgonerd said: Never been a fan of cone times, you can tell if he's athletic or not on tape, and imo he plenty is. You may not be but it's pretty apparent the Packers value 3 cone times. I"m not sure if James meets their thresholds or not. I would imagine so if they brought him in for a visit, ect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, ArthurPensky said: You may not be but it's pretty apparent the Packers value 3 cone times. I hope it's not the determining factor, would love to have James. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, ArthurPensky said: You may not be but it's pretty apparent the Packers value 3 cone times. I"m not sure if James meets their thresholds or not. I would imagine so if they brought him in for a visit, ect. I think they value agility more than thresholds on tests. The film tells a different story when it comes to his agility. I think they'd have to weigh those against each other and I trust the tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 33 minutes ago, ArthurPensky said: Does House/Tramon give us anything in the tea leaves to think Gutey is positioning himself to make a move for a pass rusher and get a CB a little later? Stand pat and take BPA rusher at 14 or as Dougherty pointed out that if Chubb were to fall to 6 or so, a trade with #45 could get you to 6 if they were willing. If Chubb is there at 6 and for some reason Indy wants to pass on im, do you do 14 + 45 for #6? That's what Dallas gave up to get Claiborne (lol). I think id do it. I am starting to wonder if Gute thinks it's the opposite, and for good reason. House and Tramon are stopgaps. Perry and Matthews are not. Neither House or Tramon are #1 corners and it remains to be seen if either are capable of being #2 for an entire season. While there are injury concerns, both Perry and Matthews are starting caliber players and front offices are eager to trust the likes of a Biegel. I've alluded to this before. While it would be nice to get an edge to compliment this year and replace Matthews in a year, we don't know that Gute feels the same way. The CB situation is quite different and more concerning. It's not even close. As a matter of fact, Gute may even see OT as more of a need than Edge when you really think about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, cannondale said: As a matter of fact, Gute may even see OT as more of a need than Edge when you really think about it Wow, I sure hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, ArthurPensky said: Wow, I sure hope not. Assuming Bulaga is out for the first 6 weeks, who is our RT ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, cannondale said: Assuming Bulaga is out for the first 6 weeks, who is our RT ? Same guys who finished the end of last season or Murphy, later draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, ArthurPensky said: Same guys who finished the end of last season or Murphy, later draft pick. Spriggs showed progress too but I'm not sure if I'm ready to bet Rodgers' life on it. Plus that leaves you with no one behind Bahk if disaster strikes. Edge is attractive and fullfilling, but I'm bracing myself for something else. I think we as fans tend to talk ourselves into the more splashy picks. I'm just throwing it out there that Gute might roll with Matthews and Perry one more year I think fans are ignoring possible OL shortages because those picks are not sexy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitnhope Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, ArthurPensky said: Wow, I sure hope not. More likely in my mind is that they see WR as an early must get. Gute doesn't want to look bad in dumping Jordy. He needs to plan for being without Cobb as well next year. I believe the Packers are going into the draft thinking they have to get a #3 WR this year who will be good enough to start next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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