IDOG_det Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 2018 Detroit Lions Mock Offseason 2.0 Detroit Free Agents - Leaving- Tahir Whitehead --- Let Walk - Zach Zenner --- Let Walk - Don Barclay --- Let Walk - Thurston Armbrister --- Let Walk - Paul Worrilow --- Let Walk - Mike James --- Let Walk - Brandon Copeland --- Let Walk - Zac Kerin --- Let Walk- DJ Hayden --- Enters Free Agency - Greg Robinson --- Enters Free Agency - Tavon Wilson --- Enters Free Agency - Dwight Freeney --- Enters Free Agency - Travis Swanson --- Retires - Jared Abbrederis --- RetiresDetroit Free Agents - Re-signing- Ezekiel Ansah --- 1 year, $17,700,000 Franchise Tag - Haloti Ngata --- 1 year, $5,500,000 - Nevin Lawson --- 1 year, $4,250,000 - TJ Jones --- 2 years, $4,000,000, (1.5M/2.5M) - Darren Fells --- 2 years, $3,500,000 (1.5M/2M) - Don Carey --- 1 year, $1,095,000 MSB - Don Muhlbach --- 1 year, $1,095,000, MSB - Nick Bellore --- 1 year, $1,095,000 MSB - Jordan Hill --- 1 year, $870,000 MSB - Jake Rudock --- 1 year, $630,000, ERFA - Christian Ringo--- 1 year, $630,000 ERFA - Kerry Hyder --- 1 year, $555,000, ERFA - Hakeem Valles --- 1 year, $555,000 ERFA - Kasey Redfern --- 1 year, $480,000, ERFA - Rodney Coe --- 1 year, $480,000 ERFAFree Agent Signings- LG Andrew Norwell, 5 years, $60,000,000 (8M/10M/13M/14M/15M) - LB Nigel Bradham, 4 years, $28,000,000 (5M/7M/7M/9M) - RB Dion Lewis, 3 years, $13,500,000 (3.5M/4.5M/5.5M) - BUCK Sam Acho, 2 years, $6,000,000 (2.5M/3.5M) - LB Barkevious Mingo, 2 years, $5,000,000 (2M/3M) - CB Robert McClain, 2 years, $3,500,000 (1.5M/2M) - S TJ Ward, 1 year, $3,000,000 - OL Wesley Johnson, 2 years, $2,250,000 (1M/1.25M) - LB Marquis Flowers, 1 year, $1,750,000 - TE Niles Paul, 1 year, $870,000 MSBTrade - Trade down with the Eagles from 1.20 to acquire their 1st, a 4th round pick, and a 2019 4th round pickExtension - TE Eric Ebron 5 years, $35,000,000 (3M/7M/7M/9M/9M)Release - EDGE Cornelius WashingtonDraft- Rd 1 (from Eagles) --- DL Taven Bryan, Florida - Rd 2 --- RB Rashaad Penny, San Diego State - Rd 3 --- BUCK Lorenzo Carter, Georgia - Rd 4 --- WR DJ Moore, Maryland - Rd 4 (from Eagles) --- BUCK Jeff Holland, Auburn - Rd 5 --- CB Heath Harding, Miami (OH) - Rd 7 --- H-BACK Jaylen Samuels, NC State - UDFA --- QB Travis Tarnowski, Ashland - UDFA --- RB Ja’Quan Gardner, Humboldt State - UDFA --- FB Austin Ramesh, Wisconsin - UDFA --- WR Sergio Bailey II, Eastern Michigan - UDFA --- TE Jeb Blazevich, Georgia - UDFA --- OL Will House, Southern Nazarene - UDFA --- LB Matthew Oplinger, Yale - UDFA --- SS Siran Neal, Jacksonville StateRosterOffenseQB: Matthew Stafford - Jake Rudock - Alex Torgersen - Travis TarnowskiRB: Rashaad Penny/Ameer Abdullah - Tion Green/Dwayne WashingtonCOP: Theo Riddick/Dion Lewis - Ja’Quan GardnerFB: Jaylen Samuels - Austin RameshWR: Marvin Jones - Bradley Marquez - Sergio Bailey IIWR: Kenny Golladay - Andy Jones - Dontez FordWR: Golden Tate - TJ Jones - DJ MooreTE: Eric Ebron - Niles Paul - Brandon BarnesTE: Michael Roberts - Darren Fells - Hakeem Valles - Jeb BlazevichLT: Taylor Decker - Brian MihalikLG: Andrew Norwell - Will HouseC: Graham Glasgow - Wesley Johnson - Leo KoloamatangiRG: TJ Lang - Joe Dahl - Emmett ClearyRT: Rick Wagner - Corey Robinson - Dan SkipperDefenseDE: Ezekiel Ansah/Kerry Hyder - Anthony Zettel - Jeremiah Valoaga - Alex BarrettNT: A’Shawn Robinson - Akeem Spence - Jeremiah Ledbetter - Rodney Coe - Toby JohnsonUT: Haloti Ngata - Taven Bryan - Christian Ringo - Jordan HillBUCK: Sam Acho - Lorenzo Carter - Jeff Holland - Cam JohnsonWLB: Jalen Reeves-Maybin/Marquis Flowers - Steve LongaMLB: Jarrad Davis - Nick Bellore - Brandon ChubbSLB: Nigel Bradham - Barkevious Mingo - Matthew OplingerRCB: Teez Tabor/Nevin Lawson - Des LawrenceFS: Glover Quin - Don Carey - Stefan McClureSS: Quandre Diggs - Charles Washington - Siran NealNS: Miles Killebrew/TJ Ward - Rolan MilliganNCB: Robert McClain - Jamal AgnewLCB: Darius Slay - Heath Harding - Adairius BarnesSpecial TeamsK: Matt PraterP: Sam Martin - Kasey RedfernLS: Don MuhlbachKR: Dion LewisPR: Jamal AgnewSalary CapEstimated Salary Cap: $178,000,000 Roll-over Cap: $7,312,612 Adjusted Salary Cap: $185,312,612 1. Matthew Stafford ----- $26,500,000 2. Ezekiel Ansah ----- $17,700,000 3. TJ Lang ----- $10,869,791 4. Golden Tate ----- $9,351,250 5. Marvin Jones ----- $8,600,000 6. Andrew Norwell ----- $8,000,000 7. Glover Quin ----- $6,516,666 8. Darius Slay ----- $6,126,269 9. Rick Wagner ----- $5,900,000 10. Haloti Ngata ----- $5,500,000 11. Nigel Bradham --- $5,000,000 12. Nevin Lawson ----- $4,250,000 13. Theo Riddick ----- $3,887,500 14. Akeem Spence ----- $3,500,000 15. Dion Lewis ----- $3,500,000 16. Matt Prater ----- $3,200,000 17. Eric Ebron ----- $3,000,000 18. TJ Ward ----- $3,000,000 19. Taylor Decker ----- $2,990,994 20. Sam Martin ----- $2,925,000 21. Sam Acho ----- $2,500,000 22. Jarrad Davis ----- $2,492,995 23. Taven Bryan ----- ~$2,400,000 24. Barkevious Mingo ----- $2,000,000 25. Marquis Flowers ----- $1,750,000 26. Robert McClain ----- $1,500,000 27. Darren Fells ----- $1,500,000 28. TJ Jones ----- $1,500,000 29. A’Shawn Robinson ----- $1,427,355 30. Ameer Abdullah ----- $1,322,405 31. Rashaad Penny ----- ~$1,100,000 32. Teez Tabor ----- $1,096,131 33. Wesley Johnson ----- $1,000,000 34. Graham Glasgow ----- $809,855 35. Miles Killebrew ----- $774,641 36. Kenny Golladay ----- $765,706 37. Lorenzo Carter ----- ~$750,000 38. Quandre Diggs ----- $733,838 39. Corey Robinson ----- $719,477 40. Don Muhlbach ----- $710,000 41. Don Carey ----- $710,000 42. Nick Bellore ----- $710,000 43. Jordan Hill ----- $710,000 44. Niles Paul ----- $710,000 45. Jalen Reeves-Maybin ----- $709,721 46. Michael Roberts ----- $705,784 47. Emmett Cleary ----- $705,000 48. Bradley Marquez ----- $705,000 49. DJ Moore ----- ~$700,000 50. Jeff Holland ----- ~$700,000 51. Joe Dahl ----- $691,478 _________________________________________________________________________ 52. Anthony Zettel ----- $660,930 53. Dwayne Washington ----- $648,941 54. Brian Mihalik ----- $630,000 55. Jake Rudock ----- $630,000 56. Christian Ringo ----- $630,000 57. Cam Johnson ----- $630,000 58. Jamal Agnew ----- $619,591 59. Jeremiah Ledbetter ----- $591,040 60. Heath Harding ----- ~$590,000 61. Tion Green ----- $555,666 62. Des Lawrence ----- $555,666 63. Kerry Hyder ----- $555,000 64. Steve Longa ----- $555,000 65. Toby Johnson ----- $555,000 66. Andy Jones ----- $555,000 67. Charles Washington ----- $555,000 68. Hakeem Valles ----- $555,000 69. Jaylen Samuels ----- ~$500,000 70. Brandon Chubb ----- $480,000 71. Brandon Barnes ----- $480,000 72. Alex Torgersen ----- $480,000 73. Adairius Barnes ----- $480,000 74. Jeremiah Valoaga ----- $480,000 75. Alex Barrett ----- $480,000 76. Rolan Milligan ----- $480,000 77. Stefan McClure ----- $480,000 78. Dontez Ford ----- $480,000 79. Dan Skipper ----- $480,000 80. Leo Koloamatangi ----- $480,000 81. Kasey Redfern ----- $480,000 82. Rodney Coe ----- $480,000 83. Travis Tarnowski ----- $480,000 84. Ja’Quan Gardner ----- $480,000 85. Austin Ramesh ----- $480,000 86. Sergio Bailey II ----- $480,000 87. Jeb Blazevich ----- $480,000 88. Will House ----- $480,000 89. Matthew Oplinger ----- $480,000 90. Siran Neal ----- $480,000Adjusted Salary Cap: $185,312,612 Top 51 Spending: $171,426,856 Dead Cap: $7,128,790 Spending: $178,555,646 Cap Space: $6,756,966 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superduperman Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Very solid all around. Like Bryan. Like Carter. Like drafting a combo of UT and standup rusher in the early rounds. I don't know if TJ Ward makes great sense, haven't seen him in recent times enough to know what he still offers. Bringing back Wilson might be a decent move instead. Also, using a 4th rounder on a WR seems mildly unnecessary, especially since Billingsley isn't accounted for at all in this mock. You could use that pick to take a shot at a mid-round tackle instead and maybe improve depth there. But those are nitpicks, good effort overall Oh i notice you didn't address the coaching staff though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDOG_det Posted January 13, 2018 Author Share Posted January 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Superduperman said: Very solid all around. Like Bryan. Like Carter. Like drafting a combo of UT and standup rusher in the early rounds. I don't know if TJ Ward makes great sense, haven't seen him in recent times enough to know what he still offers. Bringing back Wilson might be a decent move instead. Also, using a 4th rounder on a WR seems mildly unnecessary, especially since Billingsley isn't accounted for at all in this mock. You could use that pick to take a shot at a mid-round tackle instead and maybe improve depth there. But those are nitpicks, good effort overall Oh i notice you didn't address the coaching staff though I didn't address the coaching staff because that stuff will take care of itself in the next few weeks, but really I don't see them ending up with anyone other than Matt Patricia or Mike Vrabel. Plus the new head coach will have to decide who to keep and who to fire and I really have no idea what a new coach might think, so it's really hard to project that. TJ Ward is more or less there for what he can teach to Miles Killebrew (similar to how they brought in Freeney at the end of this year). Ward was one of the best "enforcer" type safeties that played more of a glorified nickel linebacker position, which is really what Killebrew plays as the 3rd safety in this defense. Killebrew has been solid, but pairing him with a vet like Ward could take him to the next level. Glover Quin has been good for teaching the young guys in the secondary as well, but the role Killebrew plays is a little bit different than what Quin really specializes in. Ward probably won't stay with the Bucs since they like Justin Evans and Chris Conte there and they also might re-sign Keith Tandy who has been an okay player for them. Ward isn't the top end safety he was a few years ago, but he's still a solid tackler, big hitter, and good veteran presence in the locker room so the $3 million for him really isn't a bad deal at all. I would be open to having Tavon Wilson back, but he may not want to go from starting safety to 4th safety (and really with Don Carey being the ST player he is Wilson would be the least most important safety on the roster). I didn't account for Jace Billingsley on purpose actually. I didn't see him under contract for 2018 on any of the tracking websites and Tim Twentyman didn't include him in the list of free agents for the Lions this offseason. I don't know if he signed a futures/reserves contract elsewhere or what, but I purposely didn't include him until I figure out why he isn't being accounted for as a free agent or as under contract in 2018. I thought it was important to use a draft pick at WR for the depth of the team, to create competition for TJ Jones, and also because Golden Tate's contract is expiring next offseason. While I'd want Golden Tate back on a shorter deal, the truth is he's getting close to the age where WR's start to fall off and WR contracts are growing very rapidly. Bob Quinn comes from New Engalnd where they notoriously send off veteran players right before they get old and fall off. I could see them taking a similar approach here. Marvin Jones is signed for a while, Kenny Golladay is signed for a while, TJ Jones should always be available on a cheap contract, and Golden Tate has an expiring contract after this season. To me, it makes sense to draft a WR in the mid rounds as a "replacement" for Tate as the slot WR in this offense. If the rookie looks good, then you can let Tate walk and still have a cheap, young WR corps. If the rookie doesn't replace him immediately, then you try to re-sign Tate on a short deal until the young WR can take over (or until another good one comes along). The 4th round WR really is just for depth and insurance in case Tate walks next year to go get himself a giant contract out in free agency. I really don't see the need to add another tackle unless it's a UDFA type player or something. Taylor Decker is obviously a very good LT and has that position set for a long time. Rick Wagner should be a very good RT with a competent OL coach in place, so RT is should be set for the next few years. At the backup spots I really like Brian Mihalik and Corey Robinson. Mihalik is still learning how to play offensive line after moving over from defensive line but he already looks like a real solid player. He wasn't as good when forced to play on the right side but that should be expected since he hasn't even fully learned how to play on the left side yet. Mihalik is pretty set as this teams backup LT in my opinion, he did a solid job when he was called upon this year and should only get better. I think he's got the potential to be a start in this league taking a similar career path to Alejandro Villanueva. Corey Robinson was also pretty decent when he filled in at RT and wasn't terrible when he filled in at RG. Robinson should be a solid backup for the right side of the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimbaWho Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Very nice, as usual. I really like the first three picks. They just gel in nicely with what you did in the offseason, the transition on the defense is nice using new players effectively and not taking guys out of roles they currently have, and Penny does give the boost we still need on offense in the run game. The Norwell signing is big money but, it's not like we don't know we need a LG or help along the line and imo he's the big fish available this year, works well with getting a new running back. He's a great run blocker and from things I've seen from him he moves well in space for a guard. I like the defensive overhaul... I do, just I'm having a hard time following what they're trying to do on defense other than be really flexible. The personnel above Lions could do some really imaginative things on defense but honestly I'm not sure they'd do one thing really well. Can't complain really though, I'd be really satisfied if this is how our offseason shaped up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockcity2 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Well definitely not a bpa approach Penny as a top 50 player.. Only reason I'm commenting is bc I do like Bryan Also can't believe your counting on killibrew.. Also bet neal is drafted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 For your projection of the trade down, who does Philly trade up for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 There's a lot to like in this. I like the double whammy of a FA RB and a guy that was drafted. My only bone of contention is that Riddick is our primary 3rd down/COP back. Dion Lewis doesn't really bring anything to the table Riddick can't do. He'd probably wind up replacing Abdullah's role. I like Moore in the 4th. The trade down netted us additional picks. This is a good plan for the future. I've looked at Moore as a viable replacement for Tate as well. I've seen him projected in 1st and 2nd round as well as 4th and 5th round. I love Tate but his contract is going to get a bit heavy and sooner than later he'll start to wind down. I know the Patriots focus more on the front seven, but I'd like to see us find a reliable option opposite of Slay. I'm not convinced that we can rely on Tabor just yet. It's not like he had a Lattimore/White type of rookie season and is a lock. Last thing - I don't see the deal Ebron is signed for. Zeke is on the FT; Ngata is signed but I don't see anything for EE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lioneye22 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Seems pretty solid. You forgot McClain in your depth chart. I assume he's your other starter opposite Slay. I'd resign Whitehead unless he wants huge money. Rather keep Hayden over Lawson and Tavon Wilson over Ward. I think the Lions have picked Ebron's 5 th yr option, that gives Quinn one more to see if he continues to improve. Would rather see another OL or LB in the 4th rather than Moore. Overall it looks good. Like Penney in the 2nd a lot ( hopefully, he's there) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy1609 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 very nicely done, it shows you took your time. my only complaint about the mock is trading with the eagles they don't have a 2(wentz deal) or 3(the bills trade before the season), I don't think they would trade up. it prob be more realistic if it was the Pats trading up since they got the extra 2 from the 9ers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehardlionfan Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 You’ve put a tremendous amount of work into this. I really appreciate that. i really like the Norwell signing. Im glad to see Mihalik get some positive attention. His play, given his experience level, was a huge positive from this season. I agree that he looks like a potential starter in the future. I like the tag on Ansah. His injuries have been frustrating but his talent, when healthy, is ridiculous. I think he has to be brought back to see if he can stay healthy. Glad to see Ngata back. His presence was sorely missed once he was injured. I like the Ward signing and I think with the additions in the secondary they could be a very formidable group especially if the dline can pressure the QB. I can appreciate all the work with linebackers but I would be more comfortable if there was another asset invested at DE. I’m sure you’ve satisfied your concerns about pass rush with the players brought in to play Buck. I have to defer to you because you’ve obviously given a great deal of thought to this. Why so many TE’s? Overall an impressive complete mock that represents a great deal of effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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