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1 hour ago, WFLukic said:

Allen and Darnold looking like day 1 starters.

Dope.

I'm not sure I have many day 1 starters. Denzel Ward clearly. Orlando Brown and Darius Leonard most likely, possibly Josey Jewell as a dark horse. 

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Guys I'm excited to start BDL'ing again on a regular basis.

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4 hours ago, Jlash said:

I thought he was drafted by Houston for some reason, then I saw him out there last night. 

It was Martinas and Ejiofor for me that ended up as Texans. I have a very high rate of Bengals/Texans though when I draft.

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Glad to see Ridley and Jackson are gonna be day 1 starters. 

Mike Williams isn't progressing as well as I'd hoped but he should at the very least score 8+ TDs this year.

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26 minutes ago, DingoLadd said:

Mike Williams isn't progressing as well as I'd hoped but he should at the very least score 8+ TDs this year

Big leap in logic but do you, buddy.

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So this is now a thing.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10TFiz79sZXruM_hXjuiK68-SrGfRWthZoT8UKuWO3xs/edit

I literally mind blanked the whole 2016 Owner's Meeting that Blue ran because it was Blue. And then it was lost on the WF.com forums.

http://forum.walterfootball.com/forum/walterfootball-com-forums/forum-mock-draft-forum/33167-bdl-owners-meeting-2016

Some very interesting stuff in there that is now part of the main Guidelines.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PMWi_mLXhAdtxZF2PYBlXzqmtrQfDF1xx1v3_o8F-uA/edit

Although I think it fixes a lot of Ted's issues with FA bidding.

 

 

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On 8/19/2018 at 10:16 PM, Jlash said:

Big leap in logic but do you, buddy.

Not really, I expect him to be the no.2 and be the main Red Zone target for the ChargIRs this year.

I was hoping he'd blossom into the ChargIRs no.1 WR by this point but that isn't happening with Allen after last year, oh well.

 

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Hey, figured I check in here see how things are. Former BDL member here for those who don't know me (PSU).  Figured I'd just provide some content like old times as fantasy football season had me craving some roster building fun. Probably not as knowledgeable as I once was differentiating between above average to below average players on the OLine/defense but skill positions are easier so I figured I'd just rank the skill positions and create a formula to create skill position rankings for BDL teams. Only factored starters in aka 1st QB, 1st RB, 1st-3rd WR, and 1st TE.

As far as my roster building philosophy on skill positions:

For QB, it seems to be the same as everyone else. I would want one of the top 19 QB's in the league, plus some young guys with potential on the bench.  Really not any QB's I see worth picking up on the wire at the moment but I'll point out the starters available for the tank.

RB, I think almost all the top 2 RB's should be owned. At least the top 64 in the NFL should be. I'll point out those I had in the top 64 available in the tank, plus some others. Ideally you have at least 4 of these guys for depth purposes (64/16 = 4 average), then young upside guys.

WR, every team basically runs 3 WR's to start now, so I would want at least 6 of those (96/16 = 6). Okay, there are some absolute garbage WR's so 5 of the top 80 would be what I'm looking for, plus some upside young guys. 

TE, ideally 2 of the top 32, which all but one everyone has. Back when I BDL'd, it seemed like TE's were going to start taking over the league and it just didn't happen.  I'll point out a few starters who are available.

Anyway back to the rankings (bold = player valued in rankings). Only players listed below are either a starting QB, WR, top 64 RB imo, or top 32 TE imo so I didn't even look at who else you have, I'm assuming they're horrible or they're upside guys not playing yet.

1. Louisiana Jazz

QB - Tom Brady, Josh Allen

RB - Ezekiel Elliott, Nyheim Hines

WR1 - Michael Thomas, Tyler Lockett

WR2 - Doug Baldwin, Zay Jones

WR3 - Sammy Watkins

TE - Zach Ertz

Ton of starting talent, very concerning depth. 

2. Rome Eternals

QB - Drew Brees, Mitch Trubisky

RB - Todd Gurley, Marlon Mack, Devontae Booker, Theo Riddick

WR1 - Amari Cooper, Marquise Goodwin, James Washington

WR2 - JuJu Smith-Schuster, Ted Ginn

WR3 - Julian Edelman, Corey Coleman

TE - Jordan Reed, O.J. Howard, Austin Seferian-Jenkins

Starts with the QB/RB combo. Also really solid WR and TE depth with Goodwin and Howard/ASJ on the bench. 

3. Long Beach Leprechauns

QB - Aaron Rodgers

RB - Christian McCaffrey, Mark Ingram, Isaiah Crowell, Jamaal Williams, LeGarrette Blount

WR1 - DeAndre Hopkins, Cooper Kupp

WR2 - Marvin Jones, Keelan Cole

WR3 - Devin Funchess

TE - George Kittle, Luke Willson, Tyler Kroft

Also has solid depth.

4. Orlando Ospreys

QB - Philip Rivers, Patrick Mahomes

RB - Alvin Kamara, Jerick McKinnon, Chris Carson, Royce Freeman, Ronald Jones II

WR1 - Mike Evans, Willie Snead

WR2 - Allen Robinson, Travis Benjamin

WR3 - Sterling Shepard, Dante Pettis

TE - Rob Gronkowski, Mike Gesicki

Really solid depth, best RB depth in the league, and they're all  young too. 

5. Hawaii Nightmarchers

QB - Russell Wilson

RB - Saquon Barkley, Dion Lewis, Tarik Cohen

WR1 - Antonio Brown, Josh Doctson

WR2 - Stefon Diggs, Christian Kirk

WR3 - Pierre Garcon

TE - Dallas Goedert

Desperately needs a starting TE. Barely had Goedert on the top 32, everyone else's starter is top 20. You can't start Goedert in this. 

6. Seoul Dragons

QB -  Matt Ryan

RB - Jordan Howard, Kenyan Drake, Ty Montgomery, Wayne Gallman

WR1 - A.J Green, Jermaine Kearse

WR2 - T.Y. Hilton, Antonio Callaway

WR3 - Tyrell Williams

TE - Travis Kelce, Gerald Everrett

Surprised they're not higher, guess Ryan is average BDL starter, and Howard and Williams are below average at their position. 

7. Wichita Woodpeckers

QB - Jared Goff

RB - Leonard Fournette

WR1 - Larry Fitzgerald, Kenny Stills

WR2 - Michael Crabtree, DeVante Parker

WR3 - Jordy Nelson, Dez Bryant

TE - Greg Olsen, Cameron Brate, Adam Shaheen

Really solid WR and TE depth, desperately need some backup RB's. 

8. Sydney Dingos

QB - Ben Roethlisberger, Dak Prescott

RB - David Johnson, Melvin Gordon, Aaron Jones, Austin Ekeler, Javorius Allen

WR1 - Golden Tate, Calvin Ridley

WR2 - Rishard Matthews, Kendall Wright

WR3 - Mike Williams

TE - Jimmy Graham, Vance McDonald

Gordon should be a starter for another BDL team. Could maybe swing a trade to get back a WR for Gordon? 

9. Camden Hood Rats

QB - Alex Smith

RB - Devonta Freeman, Carlos Hyde, Duke Johnson, Sony Michel

WR1 - Odell Beckham Jr., DeDe Westbrook

WR2 - Josh Gordon, Cole Beasley

WR3 - Nelson Agholor, Courtland Sutton

TE - Evan Engram, David Njoku

Giving Alex Smith at least a chance if Gordon is as good as he once was. 

10. Singapore Sentinels

QB - Jimmy Garoppolo

RB - Le'Veon Bell, Kareem Hunt, Bilal Powell, Spencer Ware

WR1 - Keenan Allen, Mohamed Sanu

WR2 - Corey Davis, Trent Taylor

WR3 - Marqise Lee

TE - Eric Ebron, Ricky Seal-Jones

Best backup RB in the league which isn't accounted in these rankings. 

11. Gotham Gashslayers

QB - Carson Wentz, Matt Stafford

RB - Derrick Henry, Kerryon Johnson, Rashaad Penny, Matt Breida

WR1 - Demaryius Thomas, Chris Conley

WR2 - Jarvis Landry

WR3 - Geronimo Allison

TE - Tyler Eifert, Hayden Hurst, Jake Butt

Needs some additional WR's, can't start Geronimo. Has the best non-starting QB in Stafford. 

12. Ivory Coast Black Rhinos

QB - Andrew Luck, Marcus Mariota

RB - C.J. Anderson, Nick Chubb, Semaje Perine

WR1 - Brandin Cooks, J.J. Nelson

WR2 - Alshon Jeffery, Curtis Samuel

WR3 - Robby Anderson

TE - Delanie Walker

I like Anderson, but you can't start him in BDL. Need to find a way to get a better RB, and don't have the WR/TE depth to really do it. Mariota is smart Luck insurance. 

13. Cuba Smugglers

QB -  Kirk Cousins, Deshaun Watson

RB - Dalvin Cook, Tevin Coleman, Rex Burkhead, Frank Gore, T.J. Yeldon

WR1 - Julio Jones, Chester Rogers

WR2 - Kelvin Benjamin

WR3 - Brandon Marshall

TE - Jack Doyle

Needs some additional WR's, can't start Marshall/Rogers.

14. Portland Horned Owls

QB - Derek Carr

RB - LeSean McCoy, Jay Ajayi, Peyton Barber

WR1 - Davante Adams, Cameron Meredith, Tyler Boyd

WR2 - Jamison Crowder, Martavis Bryant, Roger Lewis

WR3 - Allen Hurns, John Ross

TE - Charles Clay, Austin Hooper

Decent amount of depth (most WR depth in the league), just not much top talent.

15. Oklahoma City Rogues

QB - Cam Newton

RB -  Joe Mixon, Alex Collins

WR1 - Adam Thielen, Anthony Miller

WR2 - Robert Woods, Michael Gallup

WR3 - D.J. Moore, Taywan Taylor

TE - Jared Cook

Below average at each position. 

16. Berlin Blitzkrieg

QB - Jameis Winston

RB - Lamar Miller, D'Onta Foreman, Corey Clement

WR1 - Tyreke Hill, Kenny Golladay

WR2 - Will Fuller, Chris Godwin

WR3 - DeSean Jackson

TE - Trey Burton, Kyle Rudolph

Even if Jameis was up on the Newton or Carr level of passable, that would only put this team tied for last. Best backup TE in the league though!  Godwin is going to breakout too eventually! 

Edited by MCoster

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My Quarterback Rankings: 

I think these 5 are the guys you can win a championship, no matter the talent around: 

1. Aaron Rodgers/ 2. Tom Brady - These two were close

3. Drew Brees

4. Russell Wilson

5. Carson Wentz

The vet QB's who you know what you're getting from them that can win you a bizz bowl as long as the rest of your team has some talent. I had these all very close but decently back from #5. 

6. Ben Roethlisberger

7. Matt Ryan

8. Philip Rivers

9. Matt Stafford (Current BDL Backup)

Didn't really know where to put this guy because of the injuries so thought this was fair between the two groups.

10. Andrew Luck

I believe these guys to be good quarterbacks that can win you a bizz bowl, but they probably just need one more year to prove their talent basically have them in the same ranking as 6-10 but think the consistency of the guys above made me have to put them before.

11. Kirk Cousins

12. Cam Newton

13. Jared Goff

14. Deshaun Watson (Current BDL Backup)

15. Jimmy Garoppolo

Need to have a lot of talent on the rest of the BDL roster to win you a championship but still doable. 

16. Alex Smith

17. Derek Carr

18. Marcus Mariota (Current BDL Backup)

19. Dak Prescott (Current BDL Backup)

Just don't see how you can win a BDL Championship this year with:

All others, including 20. Mitch Tribusky and 21. Patrick Mahomes, both backups that haven't proven themselves in the NFL but would be in the 11-15 category next year if they have good years), and 27. Jameis Winston, factoring the suspension slightly here but would only be a few positions higher. 

 

Top BDL FA QB's available would start at the 22nd rank QB (in approx order - likely Week 1 starters only listed): 

Blake Bortles, Case Keenum, Eli Manning, Andy Dalton, Joe Flacco, Tyrod Taylor, Ryan Tannehill, Sam Bradford, Josh McCown

 

 

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Top BDL RB's available (in order that I ranked in my top 64):

Marshawn Lynch, Chris Thompson, James White, Gio Bernard, Latavius Murray, Jordan Wilkins, Doug Martin

I also like Corey Grant and Chase Edmonds as potential guys to stash. 

Top BDL TE's available:

Only one from my top 32 is Benjamin Watson. Some other potential real life NFL starters that are BDL FA's are Ed Dickson, Blake Jarwin, Ryan Griffin, and Virgil Green (or Gates if they sign him eventually)

Top BDL WR's available (all that should/potentially will see a lot of playing time Week 1): 

Chris Hogan, Randall Cobb, Paul Richardson, John Brown, Danny Amendola, Ryan Grant, Mike Wallace, Quincy Enunwa, Donte Moncrief, Terrance Williams, Taylor Gabriel, Eric Decker, Terrelle Pryor, Albert Wilson. 

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I'm confused as to why some random is spouting BDL stuff but ok.

I respect the 8th ranking skill position wise.

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18 minutes ago, DingoLadd said:

I'm confused as to why some random is spouting BDL stuff but ok.

I respect the 8th ranking skill position wise.

PSU is as old school as me, JLash, Pheltz, and SirA.

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10 minutes ago, Ragnarok said:

PSU is as old school as me, JLash, Pheltz, and SirA.

Ah. I assume he quit early on then? Welcome back then PSU.

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