LoganF89 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 so a lot of talk has been going around about us securing a 3rd rounder for losing cousins next year but we have other players who can net us picks too, in fact if we end up not signing a lot of our key FAs it could be one of the biggest years we have ever had for compensatory picks. there isnt really a FA in this years class that im dying to have outside of leveon which will never happen but what values and picks do you think we would get for the other players if we dont resign them? cousins 3rd- hes going to get paid and going to be a starter and put up numbers brown 3rd- a team could finally give him what he wants and if he plays how he did for us it could net us a 3rd breeland 3rd- another guy who could be out priced for us to resign, he could get a big deal due to his age and talent, i could see the 49ers giving him a deal Long 4th- sounds like a long shot but FA is thin with centers and guards so someone could get desperate and give him big money and hes proved hes a starter in this league gallete late round- my gut feeling is he signs somewhere for decent money and ends up a 10 sack guy starting healthy murphy late round- another guy who can bolster a pass rush, wont get too much money but i think will produce as long as he doesnt get suspended pryor 4th-if hes in cleveland and does what he did when they had him he could net us something what do you guys think the value of our FAs will be compensatory wise if we dont sign a big name guy? if we end up losing them all i really rather not sign a big name unless its poe, those picks will be vital to us next year if we end up needing to rebuild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldman9er Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Well.. you're definitely onto something with that top 3. They should all get significant deals that could net Washington 3rd or 4th rd picks. There's a lot that goes into comp picks, IIRC.... games played/started being one.. and of course the contract size. Really, I dunno.. I don't worry much about stuff like this. I look at comp picks as extra gravy on top. Great if there, but just give me my meal of mashed potato and gravy as is and leave me be! If it has extra gravy, great. If not, meh whatever. Focus on each year... add whichever FAs you think will instantly help the team, and don't fret about this. ( that's my outlook anyway.. not telling you how you need to be ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganF89 Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, oldman9er said: Well.. you're definitely onto something with that top 3. They should all get significant deals that could net Washington 3rd or 4th rd picks. There's a lot that goes into comp picks, IIRC.... games played/started being one.. and of course the contract size. Really, I dunno.. I don't worry much about stuff like this. I look at comp picks as extra gravy on top. Great if there, but just give me my meal of mashed potato and gravy as is and leave me be! If it has extra gravy, great. If not, meh whatever. Focus on each year... add whichever FAs you think will instantly help the team, and don't fret about this. ( that's my outlook anyway.. not telling you how you need to be ) i agree with your opinion, howeverare there really any top paid guys in FA your interested in that we have a shot at? I honestly think Poe is the only one, and with him probably only playing a small percentage of snaps, will he cause us to lose out on a pick due to his contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldman9er Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Just now, LoganF89 said: i agree with your opinion, howeverare there really any top paid guys in FA your interested in that we have a shot at? I honestly think Poe is the only one, and with him probably only playing a small percentage of snaps, will he cause us to lose out on a pick due to his contract? I can't really sit here at this time and say that I'm just dying to see Washington snag this particular guy or that particular guy. I would like to see them make their draft more simplified by adding ONE big FA target to the roster. Maybe that one target is a Redskin FA like Zach Brown... but the contract size matters. Adding a vet NT like Poe would please me, since it solves a concern at NT. Adding an ILB like Bowman or especially Bradham could easily cushion the blow of Brown walking out the door. I'm not loving the potential vet WRs when considering their likely cost versus contribution. If a guy like T.Y. Hilton was free, I'd probably stumble over self to want him signed... because he's a complete type of weapon... adept in short area separation and YAC... and also a deep threat. So I dunno. I just sit back, hope they do stuff that makes me happy.. but pretty much stay as passive. Not like me overthinking it makes a difference to what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 3 hours ago, LoganF89 said: i agree with your opinion, howeverare there really any top paid guys in FA your interested in that we have a shot at? I honestly think Poe is the only one, and with him probably only playing a small percentage of snaps, will he cause us to lose out on a pick due to his contract? Poe and Allen Robinson. The formula for comp picks is based off of the money of guys we lost (their new deals with their new team) and the money we pay for new free agents. Playing time doesn’t matter. in order to assure that we land the comps picks you propose we would have to sit out of free agency. Would that be a bad thing? Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Two things to remember: When we say a "3rd" or a "4th" compensatory pick, it's at the end of the round. So, in essence, a 3rd round compensatory pick should really be considered a 4th. As MK said, it comes down to comparable contracts. If the Redskins want to maximize what they get in 2019, they'd have to be very judicious and patient now. As MK also said, Moron is trying to save his job and thus will likely go wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 It also bears reminding that while “3rd round compensatory pick” sounds pretty valuable — they’ve been remarkably unsuccessful picks over the years. Since 2009, these are the players taken with 3rd round comp picks: LB Tyrone McKenzie TE Chase Coffman TE Travis Beckum WR Juaquin Iglesias CB Brendon Ghee LB Rennie Curran G Mike Johnson DT Sione Fua DE Sam Montgomery RB Knile Davis LB Zaviar Gooden RB Dri Archer TE Richard Rodgers TE Crockett Gillmore G Brandon Thomas DE Geneo Grissom CB Steven Nelson LB Paul Dawson C Graham Glasgow DT Vincent Valentine OT Rees Odhiambo S Justin Simmons CB Cordrea Tankersley TE Jonnu Smith WR Chad Williams CB Rasul Douglas CB Brendan Langley DT Nazair Jones LB Trey Hendrickson QB C.J. Beathard RB James Conner WR Amara Darboh LB Kendall Beckwith Obviously in large part it’s just a weird statistical fluke that NONE of them have been better than a part-time starter at TE like Richard Rodgers. But it is worth remembering that protecting the comp pick is nothing to build your offseason around. Keep it in mind, don’t just waste it for no reason, but you shouldn’t change your whole approach just to try to preserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 20 minutes ago, e16bball said: It also bears reminding that while “3rd round compensatory pick” sounds pretty valuable — they’ve been remarkably unsuccessful picks over the years. Since 2009, these are the players taken with 3rd round comp picks: LB Tyrone McKenzie TE Chase Coffman TE Travis Beckum WR Juaquin Iglesias CB Brendon Ghee LB Rennie Curran G Mike Johnson DT Sione Fua DE Sam Montgomery RB Knile Davis LB Zaviar Gooden RB Dri Archer TE Richard Rodgers TE Crockett Gillmore G Brandon Thomas DE Geneo Grissom CB Steven Nelson LB Paul Dawson C Graham Glasgow DT Vincent Valentine OT Rees Odhiambo S Justin Simmons CB Cordrea Tankersley TE Jonnu Smith WR Chad Williams CB Rasul Douglas CB Brendan Langley DT Nazair Jones LB Trey Hendrickson QB C.J. Beathard RB James Conner WR Amara Darboh LB Kendall Beckwith Obviously in large part it’s just a weird statistical fluke that NONE of them have been better than a part-time starter at TE like Richard Rodgers. But it is worth remembering that protecting the comp pick is nothing to build your offseason around. Keep it in mind, don’t just waste it for no reason, but you shouldn’t change your whole approach just to try to preserve it. One big change is that comp picks are tradeable now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylor made Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 If we are smart, this is the year to do absolutely nothing in FA. Of course, Gruden will do anything to save his job and they are gonna spend the money. *Also, IIRC you can now trade comp. picks which is huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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