AlexGreen#20 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Just now, {Family Ghost} said: Troy Aikman .. terrible team .. terrible rookie year. Another fine example, but again we're talking the 80s. 40 years later a 1:2 TD:INT ratio is mind bogglingly terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Just now, AlexGreen#20 said: I'm just going to say that anybody going to a coach/GM and demanding a player gets traded needs to mind their own damn business, but even if you needed to move Randall, we still got a crap package for him. Apparently it is not always players play, coaches coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 I'm dying over the Davante Adams-Damarious Randall tweets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: And if Randall walks we get a comp pick. If we cut Randall we get more salary cap space. Kizer has a lot of NFL game tape of looking terrible to think we're going to be conning people out of picks for him. That's like saying guys are going to watch Rodgers Tedford tape when considering a deal for him. Lol come on. If it's 2020 and he's balled out and looks like he's groomed by Mac, Philbin and Rodgers you honestly think some GM is going to say, "wait pull out those Browns 2017 tapes! He stinks." That's old news. If that's the case we're lucky we got what we got for Randall with the 2016 tape on him out that. What a garbage CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, squire12 said: Apparently it is not always players play, coaches coach. If that **** was really going on, I'm going to have lost a lot of respect for McCarthy and his "council of veterans" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaitWhat Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kenrik said: You think someone would trade a 1st for Randall? The trade was worth about a 4th. Randall has been more consistently bad than good. I’m genuinely getting a kick out of the sudden deification of a guy people tore apart on a weekly basis for getting burned numerous amounts of plays. He flashed in his rookie year and despite a slight pulse this past season on a **** awful defense, never showed his rookie form again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Another fine example, but again we're talking the 80s. 40 years later a 1:2 TD:INT ratio is mind bogglingly terrible. Matt Stafford .. 2-8 record 13 td's 20 int's 53% comp. rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Packerraymond said: That's like saying guys are going to watch Rodgers Tedford tape when considering a deal for him. Lol come on. If it's 2020 and he's balled out and looks like he's groomed by Mac, Philbin and Rodgers you honestly think some GM is going to say, "wait pull out those Browns 2017 tapes! He stinks." That's old news. If that's the case we're lucky we got what we got for Randall with the 2016 tape on him out that. What a garbage CB. No, Tedford was in college. That's not the same thing. Those are in fact two very different things. And I think some GM is going to say, "I've seen this movie before with Matt Flynn and Brett Hundley, why the hell would I trade the Packers picks when I can make a run in Free Agency?". Also you seem to be missing the pivotal piece that Kizer is freaking terrible. What the hell did we get for Randall? A terrible backup QB and minimal improvement in the 4th and 5th rounds of the draft. Start scheduling the damn parade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: That's like saying guys are going to watch Rodgers Tedford tape when considering a deal for him. Lol come on. If it's 2020 and he's balled out and looks like he's groomed by Mac, Philbin and Rodgers you honestly think some GM is going to say, "wait pull out those Browns 2017 tapes! He stinks." That's old news. If that's the case we're lucky we got what we got for Randall with the 2016 tape on him out that. What a garbage CB. If Kizer plays in preseason and plays well, it really does not do much for his trade value. Kizer would need to play meaningful minutes in regular season games and lead GB to wins. Something that no one really wants to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeightTheVillain Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Disagree the deep ball is 1000x better than Hundley's also disagree that he has far superior arm strength. Both have fine arms. And Kizer is perfectly willing to stay in the pocket and throw bucket fulls of picks. He played like a bottom tier backup. Hundley was a 52 MPH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: Matt Stafford .. 2-8 record 13 td's 20 int's 53% comp. rate Fair, but what you seem to be missing is that even with the examples you're citing, that's still most definitely not the more likely outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaitWhat Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: I'm just going to say that anybody going to a coach/GM and demanding a player gets traded needs to mind their own damn business, but even if you needed to move Randall, we still got a crap package for him. He played his rookie season in one of the worst organizations in all of sports. A genuine bottom 2 or 3 even. Ineptness at every single level. Nothing he showed last year matters. End of discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, SpeightTheVillain said: Hundley was a 52 MPH Is 4 Mph supposed to be meaningful for arm strength? That seems to be rather insignificant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, SpeightTheVillain said: Hundley was a 52 MPH You're point being what? Hundley doesn't lack arm strength. They're both fine. The problem with both of them is they're inaccurate and often don't know what to do with the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Another fine example, but again we're talking the 80s. 40 years later a 1:2 TD:INT ratio is mind bogglingly terrible. 8 TDs and 9 turnovers in week 1 and 10-16 where he had Coleman and Gordon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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