All avenues MOCK

[squire12]

Been working on this one for a while.  Likely will be the only effort of a mock for me this year.  I am thinking the new GM Brian Gutekunst will be moving around a good deal in the draft with 12 picks at his disposal.  I tried to work a few trades in for the early rounds and would not be at all surprised in more happen in the later rounds.  I do feel that GB will make around 10+ draft picks as there may be some decent turnover on the roster.  

Did not look at additional free agents prior to the draft, do feel that some will happen in the few weeks after the draft, veteran depth and some player cuts that may happen as teams acquire rookies that might allow them to move on from some veteran players. 

Lets get to it......

1.14  -- GB trades pick 1.14 and 5.138 with LAC for pick 1.17 and pick 5.155 and WR Tyrell Williams       @Cadmus!!!!!!

Williams adds a much needed outside WR.  There is a lot to like about this physical profile and would flourish in GB with Rodgers

Pro Day Results
Combine Invite:  Height: 6034 Weight: 204 40 Yrd Dash:  20 Yrd Dash:  10 Yrd Dash:	225 Lb. Bench Reps:  Vertical Jump:  Broad Jump:  20 Yrd Shuttle:  3-Cone Drill:	Dates: 03/13/15@Oregon State  Height: 6034 Weight: 204 40 Yrd Dash: 4.43 20 Yrd Dash: 2.59 10 Yrd Dash: 1.51	225 Lb. Bench Reps:  Vertical Jump: 39 1/2 Broad Jump: 10'07" 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.17 3-Cone Drill: 6.74

Pick 1.17 --  GB selects Harold Landry OLB Boston College

Much has been discussed about Landry, moving down a few slots and picking up a WR is just icing on the cake in still being able to land Landry at pick 17

Combine Results		Pro Day Results
Combine Invite: Yes Height: 6023 Weight: 252 40 Yrd Dash: 4.64 20 Yrd Dash: 2.69 10 Yrd Dash: 1.59	225 Lb. Bench Reps: 24 Vertical Jump: 36 Broad Jump: 09'11" 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.19 3-Cone Drill: 6.88	Dates: 03/21/18  Height: 6023 Weight: 252 40 Yrd Dash:  20 Yrd Dash:  10 Yrd Dash:	225 Lb. Bench Reps:  Vertical Jump:  Broad Jump:  20 Yrd Shuttle:  3-Cone Drill:

 

• 2.45 -- GB trades pick 2.45 and pick 4.101 to CLE for pick 2.35

  • Pick 2.35 -- GB Selects Isaiah Oliver CB Colorado

My affection for Oliver as an outside press CB is hard to hide.  Moving up to get him will likely need to happen. 

Green = Combine   Blue = Pro Day

HT:  6'0"

WT:  201

40:  4.50

Vert: 35.5

Broad:  10'6"

3-cone: 6.85 

20 shuttle:  3.94

 

• 3.76   -- GB Trades pick 3.76 to BUF  for pick 3.96 and 4.121 and a 2019 3rd

  • Pick 3.96 --  GB selects Kemoko Turay OLB Rutgers

Turay has explosion and burst but did not have much production at the college level.  He is worth a shot as a developmental pass rusher.

Combine Results		Pro Day Results
Combine Invite: Yes Height: 6045 Weight: 253 40 Yrd Dash: 4.65 20 Yrd Dash: 2.72 10 Yrd Dash: 1.62	225 Lb. Bench Reps:  Vertical Jump:  Broad Jump:  20 Yrd Shuttle:  3-Cone Drill:  No Bench-Choice/No Full Workout-Hamstring on 2nd 40.	Dates: 03/09/18  Height: 6045 Weight: 253 40 Yrd Dash:  20 Yrd Dash:  10 Yrd Dash:	225 Lb. Bench Reps: 18 Vertical Jump:  Broad Jump:  20 Yrd Shuttle:  3-Cone Drill:
4.67

 

4.121 -- (from BUF) GB selects Mason Cole OL Michigan

Versatile OL that was a 4 year starter at Michigan, 2 years at LT and OC.  Offers fantastic depth at multiple positions

Combine Results		Pro Day Results
Combine Invite: Yes Height: 6041 Weight: 307 40 Yrd Dash: 5.23 20 Yrd Dash: 3.00 10 Yrd Dash: 1.78	225 Lb. Bench Reps: 23 Vertical Jump: 23 1/2 Broad Jump: 08'08" 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.78 3-Cone Drill: 7.77	Dates: 03/23/18  Height: 6041 Weight: 307 40 Yrd Dash:  20 Yrd Dash:  10 Yrd Dash:	225 Lb. Bench Reps:  Vertical Jump: 27 1/2 Broad Jump:  20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.72 3-Cone Drill:

 

4.133 -- GB Selects Ian Thomas TE Indiana

Developmental TE that will need be given time to learn the finer points of the position from Graham.  Figures to be the TE #2 after Kendricks moves on.

Combine Results		Pro Day Results
Combine Invite: Yes Height: 6035 Weight: 259 40 Yrd Dash: 4.65 20 Yrd Dash: 2.70 10 Yrd Dash: 1.56	225 Lb. Bench Reps:  Vertical Jump: 36 Broad Jump: 10'03" 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.20 3-Cone Drill: 7.15 No Bench-Shoulder	Dates: 04/03/18  Height: 6035 Weight: 259 40 Yrd Dash:  20 Yrd Dash:  10 Yrd Dash:	225 Lb. Bench Reps:  Vertical Jump:  Broad Jump:  20 Yrd Shuttle:  3-Cone Drill:

5.155 (From LAC) --  GB selects Davontae Harris CB Illinois State

Developmental CB prospect that has the speed to play outside, but might be best served in the slot in the long term.  

Combine Results		Pro Day Results
Combine Invite: Yes Height: 5113 Weight: 205 40 Yrd Dash: 4.43 20 Yrd Dash: 2.63 10 Yrd Dash: 1.56	225 Lb. Bench Reps: 22 Vertical Jump: 32 1/2 Broad Jump: 10'03" 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.40 3-Cone Drill: 6.96	Dates: 03/21/18 03/13/18@Northwestern  Height: 5113 Weight: 205 40 Yrd Dash:  20 Yrd Dash:  10 Yrd Dash:	225 Lb. Bench Reps:  Vertical Jump:  Broad Jump:  20 Yrd Shuttle:  3-Cone Drill:

5.172 -- GB Selects Oren Burks LB Vanderbilt

One of GB pre draft visits.  Fits the mold of a coverage LB replacing Joe Thomas.  Fantastic athlete for the position and should be a great ST contributor from day 1.

Combine Results		Pro Day Results
Combine Invite: Yes Height: 6031 Weight: 233 40 Yrd Dash: 4.59 20 Yrd Dash: 2.64 10 Yrd Dash: 1.59	225 Lb. Bench Reps: 18 Vertical Jump: 39 1/2 Broad Jump: 10'11" 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.15 3-Cone Drill: 6.82	Dates: 03/13/18  Height: 6031 Weight: 233 40 Yrd Dash:  20 Yrd Dash:  10 Yrd Dash:	225 Lb. Bench Reps:  Vertical Jump:  Broad Jump:  20 Yrd Shuttle:  3-Cone Drill:

5.174  -- GB selects Cedrick Wilson WR Boise State

Limited route tree, but has an ability to get deep on DB.

Combine Results		Pro Day Results
Combine Invite: Yes Height: 6022 Weight: 197 PD3X AKA "Official" 40 Yard Dash (ET): 4.55 40 Yard Dash (HH): 4.50 20 Yard (ET): 2.65 20 Yard (HH): 2.56 10 Yard (ET): 1.58 10 Yard (HH): 1.57	225 Lb. Bench Reps: 09 Vertical Jump: 37 Broad Jump: 10'01" 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.23 3-Cone Drill: 6.89	Dates: 04/03/18  Hand: 09 3/4  Arm: 31 1/2 Wingspan: 77 3/8 Height: 6022 Weight: 197 40 Yard Dash (HH):  20 Yard (HH):  10 Yard (HH):	225 Lb. Bench Reps:  Vertical Jump:  Broad Jump:  20 Yrd Shuttle:  3-Cone Drill:

6.186 -- GB selects Siran Neal DB Jacksonville State

Versatile DB that might lack the movement to play outside at CB, projection to move to slot or safety.  Should be a solid ST contributor

Combine Results		Pro Day Results
Combine Invite: Yes Height: 6000 Weight: 206 PD3X AKA "Official" 40 Yard Dash (ET): 4.56 40 Yard Dash (HH): 4.53 20 Yard (ET): 2.67 20 Yard (HH): 2.59 10 Yard (ET): 1.62 10 Yard (HH): 1.58	225 Lb. Bench Reps: 17 Vertical Jump: 40 1/2 Broad Jump: 10'02" 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.28 3-Cone Drill: 7.00	Dates: 03/13/18  Hand: 09 7/8  Arm: 31 1/8 Wingspan: 75 7/8 Height: 6000 Weight: 206 40 Yard Dash (HH): 4.56 20 Yard (HH): 2.62 10 Yard (HH): 1.62	225 Lb. Bench Reps:  Vertical Jump:  Broad Jump:  20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.34 3-Cone Drill: 7.07

6.207 -- GB Selects Leon Jacobs LB Wisconsin

Depth LB that should be a ST contributor.

ombine Results		Pro Day Results
Combine Invite: Yes Height: 6011 Weight: 246 PD3X AKA "Official" 40 Yard Dash (ET): 4.48 40 Yard Dash (HH): 4.43 20 Yard (ET): 2.61 20 Yard (HH): 2.53 10 Yard (ET): 1.58 10 Yard (HH): 1.58	225 Lb. Bench Reps: 26 Vertical Jump: 34 1/2 Broad Jump: 10'02" 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.44 3-Cone Drill: 7.14	Dates: 03/14/18  Hand: 09 5/8  Arm: 33 1/2 Wingspan: 79 1/4 Height: 6011 Weight: 246 40 Yard Dash (HH):  20 Yard (HH):  10 Yard (HH):	225 Lb. Bench Reps:  Vertical Jump:  Broad Jump:  20 Yrd Shuttle:  3-Cone Drill:

7.232 -- GB Selects Bilal Nichols DL Delaware

Depth DL prospect that has some burst.  May offer some inside pass rush after some technique and coaching.

Combine Results		Pro Day Results
Combine Invite: Yes Height: 6036 Weight: 306 PD3X AKA "Official" 40 Yard Dash (ET): 4.95 40 Yard Dash (HH): 4.93 20 Yard (ET): 2.89 20 Yard (HH): 2.84 10 Yard (ET): 1.72 10 Yard (HH): 1.71	225 Lb. Bench Reps: 29 Vertical Jump:  Broad Jump:  20 Yrd Shuttle:  3-Cone Drill:  No Full Workout-Hamstring on 2nd 40.	Dates: 03/19/18  Hand: 10 1/4  Arm: 33 3/8 Wingspan: 80 1/8 Height: 6036 Weight: 306 40 Yard Dash (HH):  20 Yard (HH):  10 Yard (HH):	225 Lb. Bench Reps:  Vertical Jump: 30 1/2 Broad Jump: 09'04" 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.49 3-Cone Drill: 7.45

7.239 -- GB selects Justin Watson WR Penn

Impressive athlete from the Ivy League.  Very production player in college and is worth a shot in the 7th round.

Combine Results		Pro Day Results
Combine Invite:  Height: 6023 Weight: 215 PD3X AKA "Official" 40 Yard Dash (ET):  40 Yard Dash (HH):  20 Yard (ET):  20 Yard (HH):  10 Yard (ET):  10 Yard (HH):	225 Lb. Bench Reps:  Vertical Jump:  Broad Jump:  20 Yrd Shuttle:  3-Cone Drill:	Dates: 03/19/18  Hand: 09 1/4  Arm: 33 3/4 Wingspan: 78 1/8 Height: 6023 Weight: 215 40 Yard Dash (HH): 4.44 20 Yard (HH): 2.60 10 Yard (HH): 1.53	225 Lb. Bench Reps: 20 Vertical Jump: 40 Broad Jump: 10'04" 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.26 3-Cone Drill: 7.08

 

Draft should add some added competition at several positions and allow some versatility where needed.  

Fire away!!!!

Sorry @NormSizedMidget no punters....I think Vogel is a keeper after year 1.

[Shanedorf]

Awesome mock. Its interesting to see your trade with the Chargers cause after I saw Cadmus post about him, that's exactly what I was thinking:

GB could move back a little and still get Landry, while securing T Williams.

Landry/Oliver/Williams - that's a nice haul

[squire12]

6 minutes ago, Shanedorf said:

Awesome mock. Its interesting to see your trade with the Chargers cause after I saw Cadmus post about him, that's exactly what I was thinking:

GB could move back a little and still get Landry, while securing T Williams.

Landry/Oliver/Williams - that's a nice haul

It' is probably a pipe dream, but that is what mocks are somewhat for.

[Cadmus]

 

@squire12

Tyrell Williams. You think that's enough compensation though? Are they trading up to draft a QB? 

Also, I was talking to  @JBURGE25 about Watson 2-3 weeks ago. Janis type athlete that can actually track the ball over his shoulder. 

 

 

 

[Cadmus]

1 minute ago, squire12 said:

It' is probably a pipe dream, but that is what mocks are somewhat for.

I was talking to @JBURGE25 about a hypothetical trade for Williams.  

I'd be fine with sending Montgomery to LA ... because they have (arguably) the the worst RB depth in the NFL. 

I mean they have Ekeler, but he's tiny. 

[Bulbouswhore]

Ian Thomas round 4/5 and Watson round 7 is larceny!  Good mock, Landry and Turay are edge prospects I’ve zeroed in on.

Here’s a thread of Watson gifs

 

[pgwingman]

Yeah,  I have the feeling Thomas will go sooner than that. He seems like he belongs with the top tier of TEs, but that doesn't mean that teams could think differently. After all, TEs take years to develop and seem like they're really hit or miss.

 

I like the idea of trading back and getting Landry. Sitting at 14, I feel like we're far enough down that no one great will fall to us, but we are sitting near the top of the second tier of guys. Trading down 3-4 spots should keep us well placed in the second tier. Netting Williams would be icing on the cake. He's 26, so he'd offer immediate returns. I'd be shocked if they wanted to trade him though.

[MantyWrestler]

I like this very much. It agree that Watson and Thomas will/could go higher. 

Also, why would the Chargers be moving up and for what?

[squire12]

8 hours ago, Cadmus said:

 

@squire12

Tyrell Williams. You think that's enough compensation though? Are they trading up to draft a QB? 

Also, I was talking to  @JBURGE25 about Watson 2-3 weeks ago. Janis type athlete that can actually track the ball over his shoulder. 

 

 

 

The trade puts Williams at 2nd /3rd round value.

LAC could move up for a QB, or another piece they feel pushes them over the hump.  OL, DL DB.

 

[Uffdaswede]

First of all, thank you for working so hard on your mock. It certainly does push the idea of draft day wheeling and dealing to its ultimate contusions.

The over and under on draft day trades sits at about 2 in my mind. A trade down in the first round probably does push that number up to 3, as it would get us more picks and show that we are trying hard to match our picks to the tiers that suit Gutey's board.

[squire12]

8 hours ago, Cadmus said:

I was talking to @JBURGE25 about a hypothetical trade for Williams.  

I'd be fine with sending Montgomery to LA ... because they have (arguably) the the worst RB depth in the NFL. 

I mean they have Ekeler, but he's tiny. 

Monty could be used as a trade piece.  LAC could also get a complimentary RB in the mid rounds vs one in the last year of a rookie deal.

[squire12]

8 minutes ago, MantyWrestler said:

I like this very much. It agree that Watson and Thomas will/could go higher. 

Also, why would the Chargers be moving up and for what?

Won't argue about Thomas or Watson being drafted a bit higher than what is here.  Could happen, as players do "slide" relative to various rankings.

LAC could be in the market for a development QB for sure.  Jumping ahead of ARI to land the last of the top 5 QB

[Leader]

I'll confess I dont know anything about this guy:

"Turay has explosion and burst but did not have much production at the college level.  He is worth a shot as a developmental pass rusher"

But....thats the best we can say for a 3rd Round selection? Seems like a reach....simply because of how he's defined.

Honestly, not busting on ya - but lets get *known value* for our top picks and leave the "developmental" guys for later on.

[squire12]

9 minutes ago, Leader said:

I'll confess I dont know anything about this guy:

"Turay has explosion and burst but did not have much production at the college level.  He is worth a shot as a developmental pass rusher"

But....thats the best we can say for a 3rd Round selection? Seems like a reach....simply because of how he's defined.

Honestly, not busting on ya - but lets get *known value* for our top picks and leave the "developmental" guys for later on.

There is no "known value" in any draft pick.  It is maximizing likelihood of success.  

 

8 hours ago, squire12 said:

3.76   -- GB Trades pick 3.76 to BUF  for pick 3.96 and 4.121 and a 2019 3rd

• Pick 3.96 --  GB selects Kemoko Turay OLB Rutgers

After a trade down, it is late 3rd selection and adding a 4th and future 3rd.  That seems like really good to great value.

[Leader]

"There is no "known value" in any draft pick.  It is maximizing likelihood of success"

This is true....and "there's no such thing as a sure thing".....but some things are "surerer" than others

Not a problem or hassle. Was just thinking aloud.