pwny Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share Posted August 13, 2017 Just now, catcheryea said: raider is way too broad of a term texan is not always a cowboy and vice versa the chargers were named after literally charging on a field according to wikipedia a black panther found naturally in america will always be a jaguar That’s an odd specification to apply only to one example and not to others. Like you’re trying to do something to make that one different that isn’t implicitly there otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 1 minute ago, iPwn said: Well yes. Just as not all jaguars are black panthers (some are spotted). And not all black panthers are jaguars (some are leopards). You're confusing the way Panther is used. It isn' a scientific thing. It isn't that it can be a Jaguar or a Leopard. It's that people in regions with Jaguars colloquially use the word panther. And people in Africa colloquially use the term when referencing Leopards. It's not really that it can be either. Panthers, as used by the Carolina team, really can only reasonably said to refer to a jaguar given not just it's geography but the geography of any of it's audience it really markets to at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: Agreed. Dolphins are always going to be the animal that I would most suspect of trying to lure you into a pyramid scheme. Too smart for their own good. Taste good, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Just now, EliteTexan80 said: Taste good, however. Where do you find good dolphin? I can only find it mixed with crappy *** canned or packaged tuna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burlow Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 We found a witch, may we burn her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catcheryea Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, iPwn said: That’s an odd specification to apply only to one example and not to others. Like you’re trying to do something to make that one different that isn’t implicitly there otherwise. well yes you can say that there are leopards that are panthers, but not on this side of the world. but you can apply it to others if you want and it's still true only of panthers/jaguars. if you were to randomly grab a texan they would not always be a cowboy. if you were to grab a raider they would not always be a buccaneer. and i actually don't think there's a connection between chargers and broncos. Edited August 13, 2017 by catcheryea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share Posted August 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, mse326 said: You're confusing the way Panther is used. It isn' a scientific thing. It isn't that it can be a Jaguar or a Leopard. It's that people in regions with Jaguars colloquially use the word panther. And people in Africa colloquially use the term when referencing Leopards. It's not really that it can be either. Panthers, as used by the Carolina team, really can only reasonably said to refer to a jaguar given not just it's geography but the geography of any of it's audience it really markets to at all. Even if you’re arguing this you’re still suggesting they’re colloquially representing two color variants of the jaguar. No different than the variant difference with Texan vs cowboy va buccaneer vs raider vs 49er Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share Posted August 13, 2017 1 minute ago, catcheryea said: well yes you can say that there are leopards that are panthers, but not on this side of the world. but you can apply it to others if you want and it's still true only of panthers/jaguars. if you were to randomly grab a texan they would not always be a cowboy. if you were to grab a raider they would not always be a buccaneer. and i actually don't think there's a connection between chargers and broncos. If you were to randomly grab a Jaguar, they would not always be a black panther. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catcheryea Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Just now, iPwn said: If you were to randomly grab a Jaguar, they would not always be a black panther. yes but the panther would be a jaguar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, iPwn said: Even if you’re arguing this you’re still suggesting they’re colloquially representing two color variants of the jaguar. No different than the variant difference with Texan vs cowboy va buccaneer vs raider vs 49er 1. Carolina is just the Panthers not the Black Panthers 2. ALL "Black Panthers" here are Jaguars 3. Those others aren't variants of each other. There may be a ven diagram where SOME people are in both, but a variant is necessarilly a subset of a whole. That isn't the case with the other examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catcheryea Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 you could make the panthers logo the jaguars logo and it would still be factually correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share Posted August 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, mse326 said: 3. Those others are variants of each other. There may be a ven diagram where SOME people are in both, but a variant is necessarilly a subset of a whole. That isn't the case with the other examples. All vikings were raiders. All buccaneers were raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share Posted August 13, 2017 Just now, catcheryea said: you could make the panthers logo the jaguars logo and it would still be factually correct And you couldn’t for the Texans and Cowboys? Or the Bucs and the Raiders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devils1854 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Where does sex panther fall in all of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catcheryea Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Just now, iPwn said: And you couldn’t for the Texans and Cowboys? Or the Bucs and the Raiders? i mean the texans logo is a bull. and i still contend that raiders is too broad. it would be like calling a team the cats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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