Kiltman Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Matts4313 said: Put my vote with nabbs. I too disagree with Kilty. Just bringing numbers/stats to a feeling fight, I never stood a chance Yes Saints are at their best most likely when Brees is in, but he’s not being asked to do a ton and his weapons are helping him. It’s in the stats and on the tape. He’s a Hall of Famer and I like the guy well enough. But think it’s more of a political decision than a football one if you give him the MVP. an award I don’t really care about but it’s a matter of principle. I hate how it’s so weighted to QBs and storylines. Brees winning might be one of the more egregious examples if he gets it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles18 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 I hope Drew gets the MVP... no MVP has ever gone on to win the Super Bowl... and after they threw that TD pass on 4th & 7 up 31... I really do wish for their demise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 30 minutes ago, Kiltman said: Just bringing numbers/stats to a feeling fight, I never stood a chance Yes Saints are at their best most likely when Brees is in, but he’s not being asked to do a ton and his weapons are helping him. It’s in the stats and on the tape. He’s a Hall of Famer and I like the guy well enough. But think it’s more of a political decision than a football one if you give him the MVP. an award I don’t really care about but it’s a matter of principle. I hate how it’s so weighted to QBs and storylines. Brees winning might be one of the more egregious examples if he gets it. The single most important factor in teams winning is how *efficient* their QB is. Not bulk stats. Not total yards, total TDs. Brees is having the most efficient season in the history of the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: The single most important factor in teams winning is how *efficient* their QB is. Not bulk stats. Not total yards, total TDs. Brees is having the most efficient season in the history of the NFL. strongly helped by scheme and personal decision to not risk losing that. I haven't been talking about yards and tuddies. talking about the distance of completions, attempts...where the throws are compared to the first down markers...how tight the windows he is throwing into Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kiltman said: strongly helped by scheme and personal decision to not risk losing that. I haven't been talking about yards and tuddies. talking about the distance of completions, attempts...where the throws are compared to the first down markers...how tight the windows he is throwing into You cant balk at what he is doing just because his coaches/teammates. He is the one reading and executing the plays at a level never seen before. He is just as much, if not way more, instrumental in whats happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Ill put it another way. We have seen better supporting cast. We have seen better HC. Weve never seen a more efficient season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: You cant balk at what he is doing just because his coaches/teammates. He is the one reading and executing the plays at a level never seen before. He is just as much, if not way more, instrumental in whats happening. His time to throw it the fastest in the league, the throw distance pet is one of he shortest in the league, it all points to scheme. I’m not saying he’s garbage, he’s having a good year. I think the fact that they are doing this well and at the top of the league for back to back years for the first time since the start of the decade also points to the supporting cast big a large or larger part of the reason. I mean you can boil it down to just Alvin Kamara...he’s inflated Drew’s numbers, by himself, considerably. 12 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Ill put it another way. We have seen better supporting cast. We have seen better HC. Weve never seen a more efficient season. Supporting cast, for sure. A better playcaller/offense creator? Yea probably, but Sean Payton is one of the better ones there’s been....maybe it’s because it’s the easiest time in history to be an offense (unless you’re the Eagles apparently) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Kiltman said: (unless you’re the Eagles apparently) NFC E if were being honest. We are all terrible together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 18 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: NFC E if were being honest. We are all terrible together. Yuuuup, the best one right now could be Eli dump offs to the two best RB/WRs in the division heres to hoping the keep winning meaningless games and lose out on the Oregon kid at QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Kiltman said: Yuuuup, the best one right now could be Eli dump offs to the two best RB/WRs in the division heres to hoping the keep winning meaningless games and lose out on the Oregon kid at QB. You give the Giants 2 good OL and a QB and the rest of us might as well just bend over. No lube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: You give the Giants 2 good OL and a QB and the rest of us might as well just bend over. No lube. Just gotta get ready for shootouts. Eagles need like two yac/rac guys i think the Cowboys going run based/strong D will help control the pace of those games. skins going small ball with Alex Smith won’t age well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 The fact the world has to watch Chase Daniel play QB today is quantifiable proof that there is no God. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 (edited) That TD run by Blount is what the Eagles Offense has been missing all year! Toughness! Happy Thanksgiving! Edited November 22, 2018 by Nabbs4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nabbs4u said: "Both" TD runs by Blount is what the Eagles Offense has been missing all year! Toughness! Happy Thanksgiving! Ohhh LeGarrette. Miss you buddy! Thanks for last year though! 👍 Edited November 22, 2018 by Nabbs4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 2 hours ago, EaglesPeteC said: The fact the world has to watch Chase Daniel play QB today is quantifiable proof that there is no God. At least it’s the early game ate and napped and ready to watch the Cowboys convince themselves they are good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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