BStanRamFan Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 With 3 3rd rounders next year I'm very happy with the trade. We are all in on this season. Ya have to be really. If we cut him, we most likely get a comp pick in return. Him and Ebukam should do better than what was in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Car_Ramrod Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I don’t hate the deal. I hope he can stay healthy. He fits in wade’s system well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr LBC Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 19 minutes ago, Car_Ramrod said: I don’t hate the deal. I hope he can stay healthy. He fits in wade’s system well He does? I can't help but feel like the people that keep trumpeting this don't really grasp Wade's system all that well.. or haven't watched much of Fowler since he was at Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr LBC Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 To expand, I feel like this actually hurts the run defense (which already wasn't great) because you can literally run right at Fowler and wash him out of plays because his anchor is still bad. And he really fails to do what has been the prototype for the trait Wade absolutely wants in his OLB's which is ability to convert speed-to-power, which Fowler flatly doesn't do (he gets way to dancy and has never learned to set his feet). I also genuinely worry that this is actually going to undercut the effectiveness we were getting out of Littleton - who was emerging and putting his stamp on games - because Fowler's both going to leave him exposed and take away reps that had, until now, been going to Littleton to be sent on - and on which Cory was getting home on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flounch Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 A 3rd round and a 5th round for a player that didn't show much for the Jaguars ?? I would have prefer to give these picks for Chris Harris instead of Fowler... It still bother me, that the secondary doesn't alarm McVay...it's our biggest weakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamRod Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 This is surprising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, RamRod said: This is surprising I am shocked. I wonder if there was a disciplinary issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamRod Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 Myles said the third rounder will be a compensatory pick and not our own original third rounder so that helps a little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr LBC Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, RamRod said: Myles said the third rounder will be a compensatory pick and not our own original third rounder so that helps a little Still poor value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamRod Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, jrry32 said: I am shocked. I wonder if there was a disciplinary issue. I don’t know. He was gone after this year anyway but I liked having him as insurance on the OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flounch Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, RamRod said: This is surprising WTF ?? So instead of trading him, we waived him ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr LBC Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, Flounch said: A 3rd round and a 5th round for a player that didn't show much for the Jaguars ?? I would have prefer to give these picks for Chris Harris instead of Fowler... It still bother me, that the secondary doesn't alarm McVay...it's our biggest weakness. I think the difference is 1) Investment already-made in the secondary and that (it won't be till December, but we're on a path where that's less of an issue because of our record) we will get Talib back this season. And 2) Wade's and most DC's will always prefer to take the approach to safeguarding a leaky secondary by bolstering the pass-rush to compensate. Also, there's no way in hell that kind of return fetches Chris Harris. None whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamPackFan Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 39 minutes ago, The LBC said: To expand, I feel like this actually hurts the run defense (which already wasn't great) because you can literally run right at Fowler and wash him out of plays because his anchor is still bad. And he really fails to do what has been the prototype for the trait Wade absolutely wants in his OLB's which is ability to convert speed-to-power, which Fowler flatly doesn't do (he gets way to dancy and has never learned to set his feet). I also genuinely worry that this is actually going to undercut the effectiveness we were getting out of Littleton - who was emerging and putting his stamp on games - because Fowler's both going to leave him exposed and take away reps that had, until now, been going to Littleton to be sent on - and on which Cory was getting home on. Littleton is the future...he's a game changer and his stock is rising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamPackFan Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 35 minutes ago, Flounch said: A 3rd round and a 5th round for a player that didn't show much for the Jaguars ?? I would have prefer to give these picks for Chris Harris instead of Fowler... It still bother me, that the secondary doesn't alarm McVay...it's our biggest weakness. I absolutely agree. Peters has been a disappointment and since Talib has been hurt our corners have been exposed. Harris would've been a great pick up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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