Humble_Beast Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Random: I think we should convert Amik Robertson to a safety. Everyone wants Honey Bader, but one of Amik Robertson comps out of college was Honey Badger. Amik is like 5th or 6th on the depth chart, and a long shot to get any playing time. This could save his career Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Humble_Beast said: Random: I think we should convert Amik Robertson to a safety. Everyone wants Honey Bader, but one of Amik Robertson comps out of college was Honey Badger. Amik is like 5th or 6th on the depth chart, and a long shot to get any playing time. This could save his career Robertson has certainly been a bit of a disappointment, albeit as a later round pick. I think that s pick was probably a rare pick that was universally likes by everyone here and thought of as a steal. He definitely showed coverage skills, tackling skills and a lot if dog in college so I'm surprised it hasn't translated better. The DB coaches we had last year were highly regarded and I thought he might break out but I guess at this stage, it's worth a try maybe. He did flash a little at outside corner but nothing really came of that. I wonder how the new regime sees him, it could definitely be a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Darbsk said: Robertson has certainly been a bit of a disappointment, albeit as a later round pick. I think that s pick was probably a rare pick that was universally likes by everyone here and thought of as a steal. He definitely showed coverage skills, tackling skills and a lot if dog in college so I'm surprised it hasn't translated better. The DB coaches we had last year were highly regarded and I thought he might break out but I guess at this stage, it's worth a try maybe. He did flash a little at outside corner but nothing really came of that. I wonder how the new regime sees him, it could definitely be a possibility. I think a lot of our young defensive players got screwed because Guenther was such a terrible coach and then we hired Bradley who brought in a bunch of his own guys to play. It sounds like Nate Hobbs may start on the outside so maybe he can compete for the NCB job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 https://theathletic.com/3217999/2022/03/30/clelin-ferrell-additions-at-receiver-backup-quarterback-role-more-from-raiders-coach-josh-mcdaniels/?source=dailyemail&campaign=601983 Quote • On how Ferrell, a defensive end selected by the previous regime with the No. 4 pick in the draft, will fit in: “I think everybody, for us, it’s going to be a clean slate,” McDaniels said. “I am really not as interested in what they’ve done as much as what we can do moving forward. He’ll earn his role. Whatever the role is going to be, he’ll earn it. We might have some things we ask him to do that he hasn’t done as much of — but that might fit him better.” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Quote • After the Adams trade, the Raiders don’t have a pick in next month’s draft until the third round at No. 86. How strange is that? “Yeah, it’s going to be a little … I will say this, you never know about that,” McDaniels said. “There are a lot of conversations being had here at The Breakers. You never know where you could end up. “We’re going to try and make every pick count, regardless of what round it is. And we also know that we’re going to be fairly active once the draft is over. We only have 60-some guys on the roster. So between now and right after the draft, there are going to be 20-some players added to our team.” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 @big_palooka Appreciate the Athletic insider stuff my man. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, NYRaider said: I think a lot of our young defensive players got screwed because Guenther was such a terrible coach and then we hired Bradley who brought in a bunch of his own guys to play. It sounds like Nate Hobbs may start on the outside so maybe he can compete for the NCB job. This new man coverage defense might suit him a lot. That's another thing to watch for Edited March 31, 2022 by Jeremy408 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Amik is to small. He was punked in coverage when he started last year. Forgot the game, but the QB went right at him and it looks like a toddler trying to cover a grown man outside. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 30 minutes ago, big_palooka said: Amik is to small. He was punked in coverage when he started last year. Forgot the game, but the QB went right at him and it looks like a toddler trying to cover a grown man outside. This is what I was talking about in another thread. . . a team saw a mismatch with Amik being small, and lined up their big wr / te on him. Easy mismatch created for their qb. Stuff like this we never do. but really thinking this will change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 7 hours ago, big_palooka said: Mullen is someone that I could see being traded on draft day after we just traded for Rock Ya and McDaniels comments on Hobbs potentially playing outside CB this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: Amik is to small. He was punked in coverage when he started last year. Forgot the game, but the QB went right at him and it looks like a toddler trying to cover a grown man outside. I don't think he's suited to play on the outside, give him a chance in the slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 3 hours ago, NYRaider said: I don't think he's suited to play on the outside, give him a chance in the slot. Didn't they originally put him in the slot, but then Gus Bradley decided to play him on the outside. He small and can get bodied. I think he has a chance if he is moved to safety and asked to use range, and be physical making tackles. You don't have to be huge to tackle, seems like more of his natural position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 4 hours ago, Humble_Beast said: Didn't they originally put him in the slot, but then Gus Bradley decided to play him on the outside. He small and can get bodied. I think he has a chance if he is moved to safety and asked to use range, and be physical making tackles. You don't have to be huge to tackle, seems like more of his natural position. Hard to ask him to cover TE's over the middle of the field at his size though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Hard to ask him to cover TE's over the middle of the field at his size though. ideally you would try to use him like Honey Badger. Probably wouldn't work but worth a shot. He's prolly the 6th CB on the depth chart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 On 3/31/2022 at 8:30 AM, NYRaider said: I think a lot of our young defensive players got screwed because Guenther was such a terrible coach and then we hired Bradley who brought in a bunch of his own guys to play. It sounds like Nate Hobbs may start on the outside so maybe he can compete for the NCB job. That's an interesting one with Hobbs, I have some reservations in that if he played really well in the slot I'd like to see him there and not disrupt his development but we also have to factor in that an outside corner is of more value so if he can play there that is great for the team. At this moment it looks like Mullen, Ya Sin and Averette are outside corners and we've had so many issues with slot corners over the last few years it's good to have at least one spot nailed down with a good, reliable starter. Hope our coaches know what they're doing if they do move him but as you say, we have to have more belief in them than that fraudulent DC Guenther. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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