Cearbhall Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I believe Barr has a good chance at getting $10M per year. If he can, that is great for him. At that price I would let him go to his highest bidder. It isn't so much that I don't think he is worth $10M per year but the Vikings simply do not have the money for it given other needs that I see as higher priorities. The team can't unspend some of the money they already have committed for 2019 and that spent money makes it hard to pay Barr. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: Poor. It’s probably his worst attribute. Unsurprisingly, I'd disagree with that. He's probably one of the 5-7 best LBs in all of the NFL in pass coverage. His inconsistency is what drives people bonkers. When he's on, he's one of the best there is. His worst attribute is that inconsistency...and his frequency to disappear when rushing the passer. He's an elite LB in coverage. Don't let that game vs the Rams cloud you...he never should have been put in the positions he was in that game. Edited January 28, 2019 by swede700 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, Cearbhall said: I believe Barr has a good chance at getting $10M per year. If he can, that is great for him. At that price I would let him go to his highest bidder. It isn't so much that I don't think he is worth $10M per year but the Vikings simply do not have the money for it given other needs that I see as higher priorities. The team can't unspend some of the money they already have committed for 2019 and that spent money makes it hard to pay Barr. That is fair. Like I said, I think he probably wants to get $14M+. I personally wouldn't even consider signing him for anywhere above ~$12M, but even then, it's still a question of where I'd put him in the priority, because signing him would be contingent on other moves being made, such as potential restructures/extensions/cuts of other players such as Rudolph, Everson, Thielen, Remmers and Sendejo. I'm not sure I would still do it, but I'd certainly consider it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, swede700 said: Unsurprisingly, I'd disagree with that. He's probably one of the 5-7 best LBs in all of the NFL in pass coverage. His inconsistency is what drives people bonkers. When he's on, he's one of the best there is. His worst attribute is that inconsistency...and his frequency to disappear when rushing the passer. He's an elite LB in coverage. Don't let that game vs the Rams cloud you...he never should have been put in the positions he was in that game. Being consistently poor against the pass is about the only consistency that Barr shows. Point to one game where Barr’s coverage skills stood out. Edited January 28, 2019 by SemperFeist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, SemperFeist said: Being consistently poor against the pass is about the only consistency that Barr shows. Point to one game where Barr’s coverage skills stood out. Point to one game other than the Rams game where they were throwing constantly at him. More often than not, coverage skills are more about where they don't throw, then where they do. Edited January 29, 2019 by swede700 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I'm only torn about Barr because of how Zimmer speaks about him. Obviously depends on how much $$$ we can free up with other roster moves. I do agree with those that say Barr does more for this defense than meets the eye. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrplChilPill Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I predict he leaves, for good money. Good for him! I also think he'll be missed on defense, but that the money will be spent on offense, which will improve. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 20 hours ago, swede700 said: Unsurprisingly, I'd disagree with that. He's probably one of the 5-7 best LBs in all of the NFL in pass coverage. His inconsistency is what drives people bonkers. When he's on, he's one of the best there is. His worst attribute is that inconsistency...and his frequency to disappear when rushing the passer. He's an elite LB in coverage. Don't let that game vs the Rams cloud you...he never should have been put in the positions he was in that game. Exactly...left one on one with wide receivers would invite coverage failures by 99% of NFL linebackers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 There's some news that Connor Barwin will be released by the Giants. I know he's 32 years old...but, I don't believe he's ever been seriously injured (I'm not sure). If Barr leaves, would Barwin be a good pick up to potentially start for a year or two...or add experienced depth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 They don’t play the same position. Barwin is a rush LB or defensive end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 If Barr walks, it'd be interesting to see if the Lions let Eli Harold walk. He is still awfully young and has yet to really prove anything yet, but still has significant upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, swede700 said: If Barr walks, it'd be interesting to see if the Lions let Eli Harold walk. He is still awfully young and has yet to really prove anything yet, but still has significant upside. Again, not really the same position. Harold is a Rush LB or an even front DE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, RpMc said: Again, not really the same position. Harold is a Rush LB or an even front DE. Not according to your favorite website, OTC. According to them, he's a 4-3 OLB. Edited January 30, 2019 by swede700 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, swede700 said: Not according to your favorite website, OTC. According to them, he's a 4-3 OLB. He plays OLB in Matt Patricia's hybrid 3-4 (as a backup I might add), and was drafted as an edge rusher by the 49ers. He's an edge rusher, not an off the ball linebacker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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