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4 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said:

I've pretty much said everything already so I'll just say I hope you're right and Rosen doesn't totally suck. We'll see.

Even if he does totally suck, it's not like you invested a TON in him.  You traded a late 2nd round pick for him.  If he sucks, the Dolphins should be among the bottom 5 teams and should have the option to select at least one of Tua or Herbert.  If he's good, they've found their franchise QB for a fraction of the price for the next few years.  Worst case scenario, he's good enough that you're not close enough to make a move up for Herbert/Tua, but not good enough to commit to.  And armed with an extra 2nd round pick via the Saints and 4th round pick from the Titans, they'll have the flexibility to move up if needed.

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5 minutes ago, CWood21 said:

Even if he does totally suck, it's not like you invested a TON in him.  You traded a late 2nd round pick for him.  If he sucks, the Dolphins should be among the bottom 5 teams and should have the option to select at least one of Tua or Herbert.  If he's good, they've found their franchise QB for a fraction of the price for the next few years.  Worst case scenario, he's good enough that you're not close enough to make a move up for Herbert/Tua, but not good enough to commit to.  And armed with an extra 2nd round pick via the Saints and 4th round pick from the Titans, they'll have the flexibility to move up if needed.

I'd rather have spent that 2nd on an OL to help our QB next year.

Frankly, we have holes all across the roster and we're not in a position to groom a young QB at this time. Especially one who was laughably bad (yes, the Cardinals were awful as a whole but the talent on the Fins right now isn't much better).

You're right in that it won't be a massive mistake that cripples us for years to come, which is the silver lining here. But I think that the chance he turns it around (with us, anyway) is too low to be worth even the price we paid for him.

Also that worst case scenario is f'ing terrifying. We don't have the depth (or hell, starters) to waste a ton of draft picks to trade up. We have to suck enough this season to land our guy lol

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4 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said:

I'd rather have spent that 2nd on an OL to help our QB next year.

Frankly, we have holes all across the roster and we're not in a position to groom a young QB at this time. Especially one who was laughably bad (yes, the Cardinals were awful as a whole but the talent on the Fins right now isn't much better).

You're right in that it won't be a massive mistake that cripples us for years to come, which is the silver lining here. But I think that the chance he turns it around (with us, anyway) is too low to be worth even the price we paid for him.

Also that worst case scenario is f'ing terrifying. We don't have the depth (or hell, starters) to waste a ton of draft picks to trade up. We have to suck enough this season to land our guy lol

I'm not sure what OL you wanted to draft at 62.  The next 5 OL taken were Michael Deiter, Nate Davis, Connor McGovern, Trey Pipkins, and Chuma Edoga.  Not sure any of those guys help fix your OL.

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Just now, CWood21 said:

I'm not sure what OL you wanted to draft at 62.  The next 5 OL taken were Michael Deiter, Nate Davis, Connor McGovern, Trey Pipkins, and Chuma Edoga.  Not sure any of those guys help fix your OL.

More young bodies the better. Specifically, McGovern would've been nice.

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There is no guarantee that Tua or Hebert will succeed in the NFL either, everyone of these QB,s drafted in the top 15 of the first round probably have less then a 50/50 shoot at becoming a winning QB in the NFL much less the next Tom Brady. I am really skeptical  of QB,s that are drafted from college programs  that win every year no matter who the QB is, a lot of times the teams system is better then the QB really is, remember Matt Cassell in NewEngland.

Rosen was a great chance to take with low to no risk or loss, we will know if he has what it takes or on to be a starter in this league by seasons end, if not he will be a good cheap back up to the QB of the 2020 season who ever that turns out to be.

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If you have 20 minutes to spare this is a really balanced view of where Josh Rosen is....... 

 

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"Welcome to Arizona, Josh. Tell you what, Bradford is 0-3, we're averaging 6 pts a game with him including being shut out 34-0, so we're gonna go with you now, behind a terrible offensive line, and your only good WR is 35 years old. How does that sound, rookie?"

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