raidr4life Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Final quick mock... #12. Henry Ruggs, WR: Speed Kills. #23. Kenneth Murray, SLB (Raiders trade #19 to Patriots for #23 & #98): Makes the position a strength with three interchangeable LB's. #57. Jaylon Johnson, CB (Raiders trade #80 & #91 to Texans for #57): Lock down CB potential, shoulder injuries a concern. #81. Robert Hunt, OG: Versatile lineman and LG of the future missed Senior bowl and combine due to surgical procedure to our benefit here. #98. Jauan Jennings, WR: Possession WR with a lot of fight in him. #121. Ke'Shawn Vaughn, RB: Quality back up RB solid in most areas could improve run blocking. #159. James Lynch, DL: Baylor's all time leader in sacks interested in what Marinelli could make out of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 https://www.profootballrumors.com/2020/03/details-on-raiders-pursuit-of-tom-brady-quarterback-situation?fv-home=true&post-id=171953 “Tafur no longer thinks the Raiders are considering Utah State’s Jordan Love with either of their first-round picks, so it sounds like Carr will be entering 2020 as the starter no matter what. How long his leash will be is an entirely different question.” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, raidr4life said: Final quick mock... #12. Henry Ruggs, WR: Speed Kills. #23. Kenneth Murray, SLB (Raiders trade #19 to Patriots for #23 & #98): Makes the position a strength with three interchangeable LB's. #57. Jaylon Johnson, CB (Raiders trade #80 & #91 to Texans for #57): Lock down CB potential, shoulder injuries a concern. #81. Robert Hunt, OG: Versatile lineman and LG of the future missed Senior bowl and combine due to surgical procedure to our benefit here. #98. Jauan Jennings, WR: Possession WR with a lot of fight in him. #121. Ke'Shawn Vaughn, RB: Quality back up RB solid in most areas could improve run blocking. #159. James Lynch, DL: Baylor's all time leader in sacks interested in what Marinelli could make out of him. I don't see the value for Murray now. This is a nickel league and we are paying Kwit and Littleton to start in their mid 20s. We should add a developmental LB, but we could get a safety like Delpit/Mckinney in that range. I do like the trade up for Jaylon Johnson and I think the Ruggs, Vaughn picks make a lot of sense. What would be your rationale for taking Jennings over a more athletic similar-sized receiver like Pittman or Claypool in a similar spot? Or a more polished guy like Van Jefferson? 4.72 is pretty bad for a big WR and should easily drop him to day 3 bare minimum. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 minute ago, jimkelly02 said: https://www.profootballrumors.com/2020/03/details-on-raiders-pursuit-of-tom-brady-quarterback-situation?fv-home=true&post-id=171953 “Tafur no longer thinks the Raiders are considering Utah State’s Jordan Love with either of their first-round picks, so it sounds like Carr will be entering 2020 as the starter no matter what. How long his leash will be is an entirely different question.” Good. Mariota can push him hard. Mariota is definitely better than Love/Herbert at this point. And he doesn't turn the ball over indiscriminately. And we can invest these valuable picks in building a respectable roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Good. Mariota can push him hard. Mariota is definitely better than Love/Herbert at this point. And he doesn't turn the ball over indiscriminately. And we can invest these valuable picks in building a respectable roster. Yeah, I’d much rather try and re-develop Mariota then spend a 1st on Love. MM has more potential then Love and Herbert. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, raidr4life said: Final quick mock... #12. Henry Ruggs, WR: Speed Kills. #23. Kenneth Murray, SLB (Raiders trade #19 to Patriots for #23 & #98): Makes the position a strength with three interchangeable LB's. #57. Jaylon Johnson, CB (Raiders trade #80 & #91 to Texans for #57): Lock down CB potential, shoulder injuries a concern. #81. Robert Hunt, OG: Versatile lineman and LG of the future missed Senior bowl and combine due to surgical procedure to our benefit here. #98. Jauan Jennings, WR: Possession WR with a lot of fight in him. #121. Ke'Shawn Vaughn, RB: Quality back up RB solid in most areas could improve run blocking. #159. James Lynch, DL: Baylor's all time leader in sacks interested in what Marinelli could make out of him. Ugh I wrote a whole Detailed reply and then lost it! “Final” mock draft? Yeah sure! you got like 6 more in you! Lol jk i really like the picks of Johnson, Vaughn, Hunt, and Lynch. I watched a good number of Lynch cut ups and I feel he’s raw (he just shoots upfield no matter what... even on draw plays when RB is going past him in the G/C hole LOL) but he has some “it” factor to him. He’d be a good value in the 5th to develop for year 2. I like Vaughn’s Sneaky speed and power for our RB2. Only knock on him is he doesn’t really do anything special. He’ll either carve out a lo nf career as a backup or be out the league by year 3... I have no idea) I like Hunt as a LG to develop and replace RI in ‘21 of ‘22. With Gabe’s future unsure I really like how you got us a nice future starter! I also think Johnson would be a nice pickup. We’ve all talked about him a good amount lately. I’d be mad if we took Ruggs over Lamb and Jeudy. Like throwing plates off my 3rd story deck and ***** shooting them with my .45 ala the “Fiasco of ‘99” when I lost my mind when we took a kicker over Jerry Porter, then when near plateless we took Porter in round 2.... boy did I feel dumb then! But yeah I’d be breaking or shooting something if we go Ruggs at 12. I really dislike Jennings, especially in the third. He ran a 4.72 and he ain’t no A.Boldin! That lack of speed is a pure disqualified. Lmao At PFF whose lack of knowledge had him as a 2nd rounder. Im a huge a Murray fan but I couldn’t substantiate a first after FA. I not that bad because At 23 he’s a decent value plus we get a late 3rd in trade. It really depends whose on the board. I’d really like Delpit here.... but if the board falls a certain way I can see this being a logical pick. Overall, I like how you drafted but not always who you drafted. But your opinion is just as valid as mine. I really like the “approach” of the draft though. You maneuvered the board to get all your positions of need filled. If your dead set on Ruggs I’d say trade down maybe. I feel like we’re just giving up too much value passing over Lamb and Jeudy for him at 12. Edited March 23, 2020 by jimkelly02 Also as your a card carrying Carr hater, I appreciate you not vindictively not getting Carr the help he needs at WR. This is very rare around here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 PFF's NFL comparison's for the top CB's in the class 1. Jeff Okudah - Aquib Talib 2019 - 58 targets, 27 receptions (46%), 282 yards (10.4 avg), 1 TD allowed, 3 INT, 45.3 passer rating 2018 - 48 targets, 18 receptions (37%), 248 yards (13.7 avg), 1 TD allowed, 0 INT, 61.8 passer rating 2. Kristian Fulton - A.J. Bouye 2019 - 70 targets, 31 receptions (44%), 453 yards (14.6 avg), 3 TD allowed, 1 INT, 74.3 passer rating 2018 - 41 targets, 17 receptions (41%), 222 yards (13.0 avg), 2 TD allowed, 1 INT, 65.3 passer rating 3. CJ Henderson - Bradley Roby 2019 - 37 targets, 20 receptions (54%), 389 yards (19.3 avg), 2 TD allowed, 0 INT, 109 passer rating 2018 - 36 targets, 18 receptions (50%), 249 yards (13.8 avg), 0 TD allowed, 0 INT, 49.4 passer rating 4. Cameron Dantzler - Dominque Rodgers-Cromartie 2019 - 29 targets, 14 receptions (48%), 222 yards (15.8 avg), 1 TD allowed, 2 INT, 57.0 passer rating 2018 - 51 targets, 22 receptions (43%), 237 yards (10.7 avg), 0 TD allowed, 2 INT, 41.1 passer rating 5. Trevon Diggs - Josh Norman 2019 - 52 targets, 22 receptions (42%), 309 yards (14.0 avg), 1 TD allowed, 3 INT, 44.5 passer rating 2018 - 33 targets, 17 receptions (51%), 183 yards (10.7 avg), 3 TD allowed, 1 INT, 85.5 passer rating 6. Jaylon Johnson - William Jackson III 2019 - 65 targets, 29 receptions (44%), 319 yards (11.0 avg), 1 TD allowed, 2 INT, 52.0 passer rating 2018 - 70 targets, 38 receptions (54%), 413 yards, (10.8 avg), 2 TD allowed, 4 ITN, 57.6 passer rating 7. Jeff Gladney - Parry Nickerson 2019 - 58 targets, 27 receptions (46%), 369 yards (13.6 avg), 3 TD allowed, 1 INT, 77.4 passer rating 2018 - 72 targets, 27 receptions (37.5%), 321 yards (11.8 avg), 1 TD allowed, 2 INT, 45.0 passer rating 8. AJ Terrell - Darius Slay 2019 - 44 targets, 23 receptions (52%) 392 yards (17.0 avg), 3 TD allowed, 2 INT, 86.6 passer rating 2018 - 58 targets, 31 receptons (53%), 340 yards (10.9 avg), 4 TD allowed, 3 INT, 72.5 passer rating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Diggs has the biggest bust potential. He’s a late 2nd early 3rd guy to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Aj Terrell was lockdown except for the natty. If we take him at 19, I can live with it. It would be a “mayock reach” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 59 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: I don't see the value for Murray now. This is a nickel league and we are paying Kwit and Littleton to start in their mid 20s. We should add a developmental LB, but we could get a safety like Delpit/Mckinney in that range. I do like the trade up for Jaylon Johnson and I think the Ruggs, Vaughn picks make a lot of sense. What would be your rationale for taking Jennings over a more athletic similar-sized receiver like Pittman or Claypool in a similar spot? Or a more polished guy like Van Jefferson? 4.72 is pretty bad for a big WR and should easily drop him to day 3 bare minimum. I would like one of those guys in that spot but I figured Claypool and Pittman will be gone maybe Jefferson I almost put him there but maybe gone aswell. I could live with Delpit over Murray, I think Randall still on the radar in FA however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 minute ago, raidr4life said: I would like one of those guys in that spot but I figured Claypool and Pittman will be gone maybe Jefferson I almost put him there but maybe gone aswell. I could live with Delpit over Murray, I think Randall still on the radar in FA however. Try the TDN mock draft simulator. If we sign Randall I think we go hard for a corner and maybe even trade up for okudah. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 12. Henry Ruggs III | WR | Alabama 19. Kristian Fulton | CB | LSU 80. Terrell Burgess | S | Utah 81. Alex Highsmith | Edge | Charlotte 91. Chase Claypool | WR | Notre Dame 121. Akeem Davis-Gaither | LB | Appalachian State 159. Ke'Shawn Vaughn | RB | Vanderbilt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, NYRaider said: 12. Henry Ruggs III | WR | Alabama 19. Kristian Fulton | CB | LSU 80. Terrell Burgess | S | Utah 81. Alex Highsmith | Edge | Charlotte 91. Chase Claypool | WR | Notre Dame 121. Akeem Davis-Gaither | LB | Appalachian State 159. Ke'Shawn Vaughn | RB | Vanderbilt This one is great. I like anae over highsmith but otherwise it looks ideal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydFan Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, raidr4life said: Final quick mock... #12. Henry Ruggs, WR: Speed Kills. #23. Kenneth Murray, SLB (Raiders trade #19 to Patriots for #23 & #98): Makes the position a strength with three interchangeable LB's. #57. Jaylon Johnson, CB (Raiders trade #80 & #91 to Texans for #57): Lock down CB potential, shoulder injuries a concern. #81. Robert Hunt, OG: Versatile lineman and LG of the future missed Senior bowl and combine due to surgical procedure to our benefit here. #98. Jauan Jennings, WR: Possession WR with a lot of fight in him. #121. Ke'Shawn Vaughn, RB: Quality back up RB solid in most areas could improve run blocking. #159. James Lynch, DL: Baylor's all time leader in sacks interested in what Marinelli could make out of him. Love the Jennings pick. I'm a die-hard Vol fan and he has been the one player who has popped and been an absolute lynchpin on the field even through all the turmoil the past few years. Whenever we have needed a clutch play throughout the past few seasons, it has always been Jennings bailing us out of anyone was going to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, FloydFan said: Love the Jennings pick. I'm a die-hard Vol fan and he has been the one player who has popped and been an absolute lynchpin on the field even through all the turmoil the past few years. Whenever we have needed a clutch play throughout the past few seasons, it has always been Jennings bailing us out of anyone was going to. He's a beast, people worried about his 40 time, I'm not he plays faster to me and clutch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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