Steelersfan43 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Activated10 said: Lions are a good shout. Bengals will prob draft QB in 2020. I expect the Lions to struggle this year and fire Matt Patricia. Then in 2020 Matt Stafford will have his last chance in Detroit, still will perform inconsistently and the Lions will get #1 pick in 2021 to take Justin Fields, because he's just as good as a prospect as Trevor Lawrence. Unless Stafford is injured seriously or he has a big decline,he is too good to have the worst record in the NFL with him as QB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboRocket Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Steelersfan43 said: Unless Stafford is injured seriously or he has a big decline,he is too good to have the worst record in the NFL with him as QB Yeah. Stafford is just too much like Brees. Not bad enough to get much help from the Front Office/have premium draft picks, but not good enough to net double digits wins by himself. Still a top 10 QB IMO and that's not a hot take. I think he leads the league in fourth-quarter comebacks and game winning drives since he was drafted. He just has had a sucky team with little to no running game and a very consistently porous defense in recent years. Capable of MVP-caliber seasons and a ring, though. Edited August 11, 2019 by HoboRocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malak1 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, Activated10 said: Lions are a good shout. Bengals will prob draft QB in 2020. I expect the Lions to struggle this year and fire Matt Patricia. Then in 2020 Matt Stafford will have his last chance in Detroit, still will perform inconsistently and the Lions will get #1 pick in 2021 to take Justin Fields, because he's just as good as a prospect as Trevor Lawrence. You can say it all you want, doesn’t make it true. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigInBoys Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) Lawrence is a Luck/Manning level prospect, Tua isn't quite on that level. 2 hours ago, SBLIII said: Clemson He certainly was a lot better as a freshman than Luck and Peyton Keep in mind he was playing on arguably the greatest college team of all time, Luck and Peyton would probably have looked better with that team too. Edited August 11, 2019 by DigInBoys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Activated10 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, malak1 said: You can say it all you want, doesn’t make it true. It's not true atm but I will believe it will become true by the end of the season and the hype for 2021 NFL draft is going to exceed 2012 Luck vs Griffin and 2018 QB class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboRocket Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 I really like Tua. He elevated the Alabama offense in ways that no other QB has achieved under Saban. Lawrence is good, and he's an upgrade over Mr. I'mma Transfer to Mizzou, but I don't know if he's THAT much better than Watson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Activated10 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Just now, DigInBoys said: Lawrence is a Luck/Manning level prospect, Tua isn't quite on that level. Keep in mind he was playing on arguably the greatest college team of all time, Luck and Peyton would have looked better with that team too. Peyton was playing for National Championship contender. I always find it funny Tennessee won the national championship the first year Peyton was gone. You know that must of annoyed Peyton during 1999. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboRocket Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, malak1 said: You can say it all you want, doesn’t make it true. Well i mean, to be fair, there were TWO QBs considered generational talents in that recruiting class. One just had the man ahead get injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Activated10 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, HoboRocket said: Yeah. Stafford is just too much like Brees. Not bad enough to get much help from the Front Office/have premium draft picks, but not good enough to net double digits wins by himself. Still a top 10 QB IMO and that's not a hot take. I think he leads the league in fourth-quarter comebacks and game winning drives since he was drafted. He just has had a sucky team with little to no running game and a very consistently porous defense in recent years. Capable of MVP-caliber seasons and a ring, though. No way Stafford is a top 10 QB. Maybe top 10 QB talent wise but he's inconsistent and not good during prime time games just like Dalton. Although he did get screwed for playing for one of the worst franchises in NFL history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Activated10 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, Steelersfan43 said: Unless Stafford is injured seriously or he has a big decline,he is too good to have the worst record in the NFL with him as QB You're probably right but I can see Stafford going into a shaky start and then the Lions go into tank mode with benching Stafford for fake injury or performance for Fields or Lawrence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazgul Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, Activated10 said: You're probably right but I can see Stafford going into a shaky start and then the Lions go into tank mode with benching Stafford for fake injury or performance for Fields or Lawrence. Wtf. The Lions are winning the Super Bowl the next two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Abhorrence for Lawrence 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolts223 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Watch Brady retire after this season, the Pats will tank 2020, draft lawrence in 2021 and continue another 20 years of a dynasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelersfan43 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bolts223 said: Watch Brady retire after this season, the Pats will tank 2020, draft lawrence in 2021 and continue another 20 years of a dynasty. As I said in page 2 in this thread, this is by far the worst case scenario for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolts223 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, Steelersfan43 said: As I said in page 2 in this thread, this is by far the worst case scenario for me! Eh. I'd be more worried about the Ravens getting him if I were you. Like yeah it would be annoying if the Patriots got him, but it would be more annoying if the Chargers had to deal with Mahomes and Lawrence 4x a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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