Dome Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Malfatron said: not planned by Drew. Just by AB KAYFABE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 No investigation needed, mostly because what could they possibly turn up? Im sure players hear whispers all the time about who wants them or who might trade for them or whatever from agents, former teammates on other teams, etc. there’s very easy ways to get that information out there and keep your hands clean. an investigation is no use IMO but I don’t care if someone feels the need. Even if anything was coordinated outside the realm of the “whispers” I mentioned above, it was all executed through ABs end. Ain’t nothing gonna stick. If its really as obvious as some of you would like to believe, then they weren’t dumb enough to leave tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 2 hours ago, deltarich87 said: Lol nothing is gonna happen except the Patriots continue outclassing the rest of the league and keep winning They might keep "winning" but they will be outclassing no one. There is no class in winning this way. It's just like Bountygate in 2009. Sure, you won a trophy, but what does it really mean when you had to cheat to do it? This is absolutely no different. What they did to the Raiders and, really, to the entire sport of football is totally classless. They have no honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Dome said: No investigation needed, mostly because what could they possibly turn up? Im sure players hear whispers all the time about who wants them or who might trade for them or whatever from agents, former teammates on other teams, etc. there’s very easy ways to get that information out there and keep your hands clean. an investigation is no use IMO but I don’t care if someone feels the need. Even if anything was coordinated outside the realm of the “whispers” I mentioned above, it was all executed through ABs end. Ain’t nothing gonna stick. If its really as obvious as some of you would like to believe, then they weren’t dumb enough to leave tracks. The investigation would be on AB at the minimum. That he signed a contract and never had a single intention on playing and orchestrated to get off the team to sign with a team of his choice. This is fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Malfatron said: yeah.....but someone is gonna pay AB next year. He is betting on himself Why would you take the risk of betting when you already had the money in the bank with another team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 2 hours ago, DigInBoys said: The speed of the deal is pretty suspect. Exactly! The speed and the size of the deal, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windh999 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, BayRaider said: The investigation would be on AB at the minimum. That he signed a contract and never had a single intention on playing and orchestrated to get off the team to sign with a team of his choice. This is fraud. Fraud? People do this all the time. They leave jobs, voluntarily if they can, or involuntarily if they can’t, all the time. He simply got fired and went to work for another employer. Hardly fraud. You can think he is a bad person for doing what he did or feel he handled it the wrong way, but calling it fraud is ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Just now, BayRaider said: The investigation would be on AB at the minimum. Fair. Like I said, it was executed on his end... if we’re assuming this was always the plan. Just now, BayRaider said: That he signed a contract and never had a single intention on playing and orchestrated to get off the team to sign with a team of his choice. Could be tough to prove someone’s intention and mindset heading into something like changing teams and moving to a new city and signing a huge contract. (I’m not technically a lawyer) Without damning evidence. Maybe damning evidence is out there, which is why I said I don’t care if someone looks into it. Just now, BayRaider said: This is fraud. If it is, I hope they can prove it and get some money back. In a perfect world, what do you think should happen to AB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 minute ago, windh999 said: Fraud? People do this all the time. They leave jobs, voluntarily if they can, or involuntarily if they can’t, all the time. He simply got fired and went to work for another employer. Hardly fraud. You can think he is a bad person for doing what he did or feel he handled it the wrong way, but calling it fraud is ludicrous. This was a contract. Huge difference. He signed a contract he intended to honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Dome said: Fair. Like I said, it was executed on his end... if we’re assuming this was always the plan. Could be tough to prove someone’s intention and mindset heading into something like changing teams and moving to a new city and signing a huge contract. (I’m not technically a lawyer) Without damning evidence. Maybe damning evidence is out there, which is why I said I don’t care if someone looks into it. If it is, I hope they can prove it and get some money back. In a perfect world, what do you think should happen to AB? Suspended for the entire 2020 NFL Season for orchestrating to get off a team that he signed a contract for. NFL makes an example. Nothing is awarded to any team and nothing happens to the Patriots or Drew. Just AB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelersfan43 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 I do not think Brown will regret his embarrassing behavior he had in the last month... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windh999 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said: They might keep "winning" but they will be outclassing no one. There is no class in winning this way. It's just like Bountygate in 2009. Sure, you won a trophy, but what does it really mean when you had to cheat to do it? This is absolutely no different. What they did to the Raiders and, really, to the entire sport of football is totally classless. They have no honor. I agree it isn’t outclassing the league, but it is business. The patriots simply do business better. It definitely isn’t cheating. All teams conduct business this way so to say they are classless and have no honor is a ridiculous statement. The Browns signed Kareem Hunt. The Chiefs signed Tyreek Hill and tampered with Jeremy Maclin. I could go on and on with every team’s questionable decisions. I guess every team in the NFL is classless and have no honor then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Just now, BayRaider said: Suspended for the entire 2020 NFL Season for orchestrating to get off a team that he signed a contract for. NFL makes an example. Nothing is awarded to any team and nothing happens to the Patriots or Drew. Just AB. Fair if we’re waiting for an investigation to turn up some evidence damning evidence. Anybody know what kind of power the NFL would have here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 the NFL should suspend AB for Conduct Detrimental to the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 minute ago, LinderFournette said: the NFL should suspend AB for Conduct Detrimental to the league. But this whole mess has been great for league entertainment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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