project T.O Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Lbs have been subpar, but a lot of that starts at the line. Big holes are opening up allowing rb’s to basically be shot out of a cannon which makes playing LB difficult. To combat that I feel like lb’ers are thing to ‘guess or cheat’ a bit which is putting them in a lot of bad spots. Have said that though lVE and smith were great last year, but they are still young and don’t yet the ability to diagnose plays at an elite level and they have been getting exposed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 We are literally the dead median in the NFL in terms of sacks so far in 2019. In 2018 we were... you guessed it!... the dead median in sacks in the NFL. We had 39 sacks last year and are on pace this year for... you'll never believe it!... 38.4 sacks this year. So I think the idea that our pass rush is a) a total disaster or b) significantly worse than last year, is not really grounded in reality. Also, on another note, the Hot Boyz nickname will never die. It is so lame, it has circled around and become amazing. And Taco took it *so* seriously, which makes it even more perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetFancyMoses Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: We are literally the dead median in the NFL in terms of sacks so far in 2019. In 2018 we were... you guessed it!... the dead median in sacks in the NFL. We had 39 sacks last year and are on pace this year for... you'll never believe it!... 38.4 sacks this year. So I think the idea that our pass rush is a) a total disaster or b) significantly worse than last year, is not really grounded in reality. Also, on another note, the Hot Boyz nickname will never die. It is so lame, it has circled around and become amazing. And Taco took it *so* seriously, which makes it even more perfect. Can't be changed to Hot Garbage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: We are literally the dead median in the NFL in terms of sacks so far in 2019. In 2018 we were... you guessed it!... the dead median in sacks in the NFL. We had 39 sacks last year and are on pace this year for... you'll never believe it!... 38.4 sacks this year. So I think the idea that our pass rush is a) a total disaster or b) significantly worse than last year, is not really grounded in reality. It stems from expectations. We gave DLaw a fat contract in the off season. We traded a pick for Robert Quinn. We drafted a DT that was billed as one of two or three true under tackles in the draft. After a strong preseason showing, some thought the light had come on for Taco. Many thought Randy Gregory would be back by now, as some(SJ) hinted he would. So being on pace for slightly worse than last year is a disappointment. Edited October 10, 2019 by DaBoys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) I still think our biggest problem is stopping the run; not the pass rush. In fact, I think our biggest problem with our pass rush is our inability to stop the run. As DLaw puts it, you don't earn the right to rush the passer until you stop the run. “I think it starts with understanding our fits and making our hits,” he said. “The main thing is stopping the run, and that’s the main thing. You stop the run, then you earn the right to rush the passer.” https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/how-can-the-cowboys-improve-their-run-defense Edited October 10, 2019 by DaBoys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) 14th in rushing yards allowed 13th in rushing yards per attempt Not so bad 2nd most rushing TDs allowed 9th most rushing first downs allowed Not so good Add in the fact that our first 3 games were against DII schools and it makes you wonder if we will keep falling down these charts. Edited October 10, 2019 by DaBoys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, DaBoys said: It stems from expectations. We gave DLaw a fat contract in the off season. We traded a pick for Robert Quinn. We drafted a DT that was billed as one of two or three true under tackles in the draft. After a strong preseason showing, some thought the light had come on for Taco. Many thought Randy Gregory would be back by now, as some(SJ) hinted he would. So being on pace for slightly worse than last year is a disappointment. You expected D-Law to be better this year coming off of shoulder surgery? We did trade for Quinn, and he's been a stud Hill and Taco were week 1 inactives, so I think expecting they'd be difference makers over the first 5 weeks was unrealistic from the outset. I mean, yeah, it would be nice to have Gregory. But we don't. And we are still on pace for the same # of sacks even though that hasn't gone our way. They were an average pass rushing DL last year, and realistic expectations would be they'd be somewhat similar this year. I'm not really sure why anyone thought they would jump into an elite tier this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: You expected D-Law to be better this year coming off of shoulder surgery? He played the last two seasons with a torn labrum. He said it hindered him. Getting it fixed should help him. That's the purpose of the surgery. His biggest problem is getting double team 16 minutes ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: We did trade for Quinn, and he's been a stud Agreed. He also missed two games. So that was disappointing. 16 minutes ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: Hill and Taco were week 1 inactives, so I think expecting they'd be difference makers over the first 5 weeks was unrealistic from the outset. The onset was before preseason. So no, it wasn't unrealistic to expect our first pick to make an impact. It wasn't unrealistic to expect Taco to take on an enhanced role with Gregory out. Hindsight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Slamman Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 hours ago, DaBoys said: I still think our biggest problem is stopping the run; not the pass rush. In fact, I think our biggest problem with our pass rush is our inability to stop the run. As DLaw puts it, you don't earn the right to rush the passer until you stop the run. “I think it starts with understanding our fits and making our hits,” he said. “The main thing is stopping the run, and that’s the main thing. You stop the run, then you earn the right to rush the passer.” https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/how-can-the-cowboys-improve-their-run-defense nah... everyone knows the run game does NOT matter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 10/10/2019 at 3:48 PM, DaBoys said: He played the last two seasons with a torn labrum. He said it hindered him. Getting it fixed should help him. That's the purpose of the surgery. His biggest problem is getting double team Agreed. He also missed two games. So that was disappointing. The onset was before preseason. So no, it wasn't unrealistic to expect our first pick to make an impact. It wasn't unrealistic to expect Taco to take on an enhanced role with Gregory out. Hindsight Agree to disagree, I guess. The OP called our pass rush “hot garbage” and asked if last year was a fluke. We are basically the same in terms of production. And if you expected some massive transformation from average to dominant, I don’t know what to tell you. If your argument is, “I wish the DL had progressed a little more than they have”, well, ok, I agree. But that was not the melodramatic premise to this thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 10/10/2019 at 3:54 PM, The_Slamman said: nah... everyone knows the run game does NOT matter. Do people hold this opinion? I know some people believe that, basically, runningbacks don’t matter. But do they believe that the running game doesn’t matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: Do people hold this opinion? I know some people believe that, basically, runningbacks don’t matter. But do they believe that the running game doesn’t matter? Im standing right here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 I think the entire point of that thread was missed. Just fyi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atran35 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Need a FAT NT. Woods should help but should have spent some money on Hankins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
textaz03 Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 This defense has been a complete disappointment through 6 games! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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