squire12 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 6 hours ago, squire12 said: Is this a summary of what we have for player claims? 2. @Counselor ---Claimed JOAT 5. @rackcs -- ??? 7. @Forge -- protector?? 12. @Malfatron -- claimed reporter 13. @squire12 -- city cop, insane or naive 14. @MWil23 -- alignment compare, revived N8 19. @kingseanjohn -- ??? 21. @Tk3 -- detects if anyone leaves town (detects commuter) 23. @Matts4313 -- claimed PGO 24. @JoshstraDaymus -- claimed 1-shot vote manipulation 26. swag -- claimed purple @Forge, @Matts4313 anyone else want to discuss were the remaining red/orange are in this mix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Just now, squire12 said: @Forge, @Matts4313 anyone else want to discuss were the remaining red/orange are in this mix? I think TK3 was sketchy earlier. But it seemed like he was frustrated civ tbh. Racks I have 0 read on and that worries me. Josh's claim would be perfect if he wanted to play inactive scum. With no one coming out that they revived mwil, the idea that he is GF has a lot of legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, squire12 said: @Forge, @Matts4313 anyone else want to discuss were the remaining red/orange are in this mix? If counselor is telling it true, and he blocked BCB one night, then Orange should be gone. Unfortunately, I don't know how I feel about Counselor, but I'm sort of banking on Whicker's "hasn't killed anyone" invest. But still, this situation seems weird. I'm trying to figure out why nobody has copped to being role blocked the last two nights. This makes sense if it's counselor and he has elected to protect himself, but it also makes me think he's lying about N6, because I was very much role blocked that night, and none of the people who have died in the last two nights would have been responsible for that. If he's lying about that, he can easily be lying about blocking Matts. None of his other moves are all that verifiable, and frankly, I find the idea that if counselor could role block players and also protect himself, that's he's not protecting himself until N7 and also stealing a vote before he does that on n3, to be highly unlikely. That doesn't mesh for me. The TK3 / Matts thing is interesting, right? Because I think Matts mentioned the "drive out of town" thing first, and if that really something that TK's move deals with (including that verbage), it actually carries weight that Matts is telling it true. I don't know why there would be a balance aspect to that entire thing, makes no sense to me whatsoever. We have no information whatsoever on Rack and KSJ, which makes me immediately question them. Nobody's freaking move is verifiable with anything at all except the reporters lol. i'm very tempted to go Mwil again, especially now that TK has locked to matts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 With what appears to be an every night conversion, I think the idea of a godfather mechanic is almost brutally anti -town. I can't imagine how he's not just 1x lynch proof. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I also have a theory that Counselor is red scum, Forge got converted and the entire freaking game is scum and screwing with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: I also have a theory that Counselor is red scum, Forge got converted and the entire freaking game is scum and screwing with me. There's something with Counselor that just hasn't gelled for me at all this entire game. But he's also participated a fair bit, and sometimes it's just that you get bad feeling because you have interacted with them more throughout the game and they have put more out there. The general lack of Rack / KSJ / Josh is highly problematic. I'm sort of meh on TK. I thought he seemed civ a few nights ago, then he was just being foolish, but today made me think that he was more civ again. The problem is, I don't know how, if his ability is legit (while also being very dumb, i may add), he doesn't tie that together with yours and understand why it exists if it really is dependent on someone else as a balancing mechanic. It's just a weird situation there. It's not like anyone else out there is claiming that they drive people out of time. That's what makes me wonder about Counselor again too. If you really do have that ability, and I can protect myself every night, and apparently so can counselor, 3 people who ostensibly can't be targeted for night kills by mafia seems a bit out of whack to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwAg Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 45 minutes ago, Forge said: @SwAg Did Dome really steal from you? Yeah, he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 counselor I have to wonder if after Touch outed his ability, and Whicker did soon after, that scum wasn't smart enough to just make sure that they kept one of their own clean from that kind of investigation. I would have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Just now, SwAg said: Yeah, he did. Were you role blocked or notified that you were role blocked upon that happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Forge said: If counselor is telling it true, and he blocked BCB one night, then Orange should be gone. Unfortunately, I don't know how I feel about Counselor, but I'm sort of banking on Whicker's "hasn't killed anyone" invest. But still, this situation seems weird. Do we know that Counselor was not converted the night he "roleblocked" bcb? Could the targeting of bcb been the mechanism of conversion? 9 minutes ago, Forge said: I'm trying to figure out why nobody has copped to being role blocked the last two nights. This makes sense if it's counselor and he has elected to protect himself, but it also makes me think he's lying about N6, because I was very much role blocked that night, and none of the people who have died in the last two nights would have been responsible for that. If he's lying about that, he can easily be lying about blocking Matts. None of his other moves are all that verifiable, and frankly, I find the idea that if counselor could role block players and also protect himself, that's he's not protecting himself until N7 and also stealing a vote before he does that on n3, to be highly unlikely. That doesn't mesh for me. Counselor has not blocked a hit in 8 nights, either via roleblock or protection. 9 minutes ago, Forge said: The TK3 / Matts thing is interesting, right? Because I think Matts mentioned the "drive out of town" thing first, and if that really something that TK's move deals with (including that verbage), it actually carries weight that Matts is telling it true. I don't know why there would be a balance aspect to that entire thing, makes no sense to me whatsoever. We have no information whatsoever on Rack and KSJ, which makes me immediately question them. Nobody's freaking move is verifiable with anything at all except the reporters lol. i'm very tempted to go Mwil again, especially now that TK has locked to matts. I am not sure how to view the Matts - TK3 - Counselor dynamic. Possible they are all telling the truth and there is a mechanic that we are not sure of. Order of events or some oddity. Ksj and rackcs have offered nothing. Tk3 has not offered much of anything. Got into a pissing match with a few people today, locked his vote and storms off. I certainly do not want to get any vote wrong, especially in end game. But I am more "willing" to be wrong on someone that has at least played and posted vs someone that comes in, drops a vote and leaves for 20+ hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I don't know, there's a part of me that wonders if I'm just trying too hard to make the pieces fit with Counselor. @squire12 did you ever reveal your target from last night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 We have to consolidate votes on someone or I am going to be lynched. Which would be really bad for us. I have no clue what the VC is but I think I have ~4-5. I think next closest is KSJ at 2. @SwAg and @Malfatron come vote KSJ. String me along to the end before you two win and laugh in my face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Just now, Forge said: I don't know, there's a part of me that wonders if I'm just trying too hard to make the pieces fit with Counselor. @squire12 did you ever reveal your target from last night? no, I did not 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 minute ago, squire12 said: no, I did not Damn, I was hoping it was in fact Malf lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Hello friends I am here and I feel like I just gave myself the diabetes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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