bcb1213 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 17 minutes ago, Counselor said: What kind of pissing match is going on in here? Me and PR do you this every time we play. Part of the fun! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, PR said: Dak can also run...you don't just have to have a RB to run with.. having five wide spreads the defense out removes your LBers from the field, sent your FS off to follow DK while leaving just one man to beat on the run in your robber... That's a lot of green. And why wouldn't Kenny get some slot work from time to time? He already has 3 inches of height on Dean. I don't know why you keep considering Humphrey a lock down corner. He has allowed 7 receptions on 13 targets I'm unsure why you think I'd play that against five wide when I could just play zone And I'm pretty sure everyone will agree Marlon Humphrey would shut down Ty Hilton. Especially when Hilton is playing outside cause let's put Golladay in the slot lol To answer your question, slot wide receivers are generally twitchy guys who run great routes and have great hands Golladay is a physical freak who can win jump ball and contested catches. But he also is just an average route runner, has concentration issues and catches his the ball with his body a lot instead of his hands every time. No doubt he's an above average to great weapon but you're really not using what he does well and letting him him use long enough strides and be big if you're putting it him in the slot so please do. Just so you know I'm not just making that stuff up https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/.amp-lions/nfl/lions/news/scouting-report-on-lions-kenny-golladay Edited September 28, 2020 by bcb1213 Found site that says same thing I see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, bcb1213 said: I'm unsure why you think I'd play that against five wide when I could just play zone And I'm pretty sure everyone will agree Marlon Humphrey would shut down Ty Hilton. Especially when Hilton is playing outside cause let's put Golladay in the slot lol To answer your question, slot wide receivers are generally twitchy guys who run great routes and have great hands Golladay is a physical freak who can win jump ball and contested catches. But he also is just an average route runner, has concentration issues and catches his the ball with his body a lot instead of his hands every time. No doubt he's an above average to great weapon but you're really not using what he does well and letting him him use long enough strides and be big if you're putting it him in the slot so please do. Just so you know I'm not just making that stuff up https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/.amp-lions/nfl/lions/news/scouting-report-on-lions-kenny-golladay It’s called a big slot and they provide matchup problems in other ways out of the slot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 19 minutes ago, Counselor said: It’s called a big slot and they provide matchup problems in other ways out of the slot I think your missing the point he's putting Hilton outside to put Golladay inside. Big slots are generally tight ends put out wider to get that kind of matchup while not affecting the other talent. That's not to say neither can do it more so that it's not using what the talent does best. Like taking zone coverage three corners and putting them in man coverage for an entire game, but that's another story... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 8 hours ago, bcb1213 said: I think your missing the point he's putting Hilton outside to put Golladay inside. Big slots are generally tight ends put out wider to get that kind of matchup while not affecting the other talent. That's not to say neither can do it more so that it's not using what the talent does best. Like taking zone coverage three corners and putting them in man coverage for an entire game, but that's another story... 1. Tall receivers have switched inside for mismatches for years... Which Counselor aptly pointed out means big slot. 2. Shaq mostly plays in Cover 3 Match, which is a mix of both zone and man. It starts zone until a receivers enters the zone and then it becomes man coverage. San Fran switches back and forth between Man and Zone so Mosely is fine and Hayward again plays both... all three are elite zone corners but all play man in their respective defenses as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Oh by the way, Fowler only played 23 snaps, which is just over 30% of the game. Dude is not going to hold up on a no huddle offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, PR said: 1. Tall receivers have switched inside for mismatches for years... Which Counselor aptly pointed out means big slot. 2. Shaq mostly plays in Cover 3 Match, which is a mix of both zone and man. It starts zone until a receivers enters the zone and then it becomes man coverage. San Fran switches back and forth between Man and Zone so Mosely is fine and Hayward again plays both... all three are elite zone corners but all play man in their respective defenses as well. So in review he's not used to playing man all game from the snap like I said. Thanks for clearing that up In regards to Fowler, it's almost like I didn't plan for this by having a 2-4 - 5 nickel look which should be uniquely adapted to stop an rpo btw. Oh wait I did Edited September 28, 2020 by bcb1213 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 You two should just make out already 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 23 minutes ago, Counselor said: You two should just make out already Bahahahhha I was literally coming to say the same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 25 minutes ago, Counselor said: You two should just make out already Don't be jelly of our love 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 51 minutes ago, bcb1213 said: So in review he's not used to playing man all game from the snap like I said. Thanks for clearing that up In regards to Fowler, it's almost like I didn't plan for this by having a 2-4 - 5 nickel look which should be uniquely adapted to stop an rpo btw. Oh wait I did You said occasionally run it lol Not every play run it. So if 4-2-5 is in, it's stuck in. If your 2-4-5 is in, it's stuck in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I knew from the second this matchup was posted, this thread was bound to get beefy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFLukic Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) this thread rn Edited September 28, 2020 by WFLukic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Time to decide on the pissing match. The Hungary offensive balance does it for me. I don’t think Hungary gets much pressure on Rome however and Rome will get some good play out of their WR especially JuJu and likely Fuller. And it becomes a very close game. However I don’t think Rome has the running game this week to really support Brees and their plan to go heavy play action falls through for this reason. And BCB even acknowledges Brees is sucking at life: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, Counselor said: However I don’t think Rome has the running game this week to really support Brees and their plan I feel the same way. I think it's a good strategy, but I don't think it'll be effective, and with Golladay back Hungary has the advantage here. I don't buy Dak being some weak point of this offense either. I think Hungary wins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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