mayanfootball Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 hours ago, onejayhawk said: Trade up draft. #31 and #63 for #19. #136, #181, 5th in 2022 for #115 At #19 I had the choice of Darrisaw, Jenkins, Basham, AVT, and J O-K, among others. If we had stayed put, we could have had Rousseau and Radunz. Where is your Mock site? You say you traded Chiefs 1st and 2nd for 19? That won't get you close for Darrisaw really. Bengals, Panthers, Lions, Cowboys, Giants want OT's. Then you forgot the Chargers at 13. They'll take Darrisaw if none of the others before them do. Now your stuck with Cosmi and you could of had him anyway with no trading at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 I showed you the options that were sitting at #19. J O-K, Ja'Maar Chase, Jenkins, and AVT are still on the board after our pick. Some are reaches because of need. This is the actual result: 1 QB Trevor Lawrence - Jacksonville Jaguars 2 QB Justin Fields - New York Jets 3 QB Trey Lance - San Francisco 49ers 4 QB Zach Wilson - Atlanta Falcons 5 WR Jaylen Waddle - Cincinnati Bengals 6 WR Devonta Smith - Miami Dolphins 7 OT Penei Sewell - Detroit Lions 8 OT Rashawn Slater - Carolina Panthers 9 CB Caleb Farley - Denver Broncos 10 CB Patrick Surtain II - Dallas Cowboys 11 EDGE Kwity Paye - New York Giants 12 CB Jaycee Horn - Philadelphia Eagles 13 TE Kyle Pitts - LA Chargers 14 DL Christian Barmore - Minnesota Vikings 15 WR Kadarius Toney - New England Patriots 16 EDGE Azeez Ojulari - Arizona Cardinals 17 LB Micah Parsons - Las Vegas Raiders 18 EDGE Joseph Ossai - Miami Dolphins 19 OT Christian Darrisaw - Kansas City Chiefs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanfootball Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 (edited) What goofy site are you using? Makes no sense "J". Bengels will take an OT for sure. Then you have Lions, Panthers taking an OT. OK. That's it. No more top 3 OT's. And what of the Chargers? They're gonna get one if it slides by Lions, Panthers. That means no Darrisaw for KC. Edited April 18, 2021 by mayanfootball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGold Posted April 18, 2021 Author Share Posted April 18, 2021 Bengals signed Reiff, it’s not a guarantee they take a T. With Jonah Williams, it’s certainly possible to let one slide. It’s the NFL draft and OT is deep. Anything can happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 (edited) I could see either the Chargers or the Raiders taking Darrisaw. Frankly I am surprised that LV didn't take AVT. It's hard to argue any one pick is irrational, though several are taken well about the big board slot. So, AVT, ranked #15 slides to Pittsburgh at #24. that's the steal of the round and it was purely machine pick. It's worth considering that in real life there are contingency trades, ie if a player slides, then the trade happens. We did that to get Mahomes, with the trade set up during the week before the draft. Buffalo also did well on that trade. Kansas City Chiefs received: No. 10 pick in 2017 NFL Draft (Patrick Mahomes) Buffalo Bills received: No. 27 pick in 2017 NFL Draft (Tre'Davious White); third-round 2017 pick (this pick was packaged in a trade that led to Buffalo taking both tackle Dion Dawkins and receiver Zay Jones); first-round 2018 pick (used to trade up and take linebacker Tremaine Edmunds; Buffalo also drafted defensive back Siran Neal with a final pick acquired along with Edmunds)https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/chiefs-bills-nfl-draft-trade-patrick-mahomes/16opv91al12zs1j8dzwew6ol9e Note that #27, a 3rd round pick and a future 1st only moved up to #10. J Edited April 18, 2021 by onejayhawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanfootball Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 (edited) 23 hours ago, samsel23 said: Bengals signed Reiff, it’s not a guarantee they take a T. With Jonah Williams, it’s certainly possible to let one slide. Naw. It's Penei Sewall. He's the draft day Superman on the Oline. Why passing on Penei Sewell could be big risk for Bengals Sewell was a consensus first-team All-America selection in his final season at Oregon in 2019. Pro Football Focus graded Sewell’s season as the best by an offensive lineman since PFF started issuing marks in 2014. In the modern game, there’s no guarantee when the next player like Sewell will be available. That’s a risk NFL teams passing on him must be willing to take. And about Reiff? The 32-year-old Reiff told reporters Friday that he would play right tackle in Cincinnati, a side he started 14 games in Detroit in 2016. Starting Reiff on the right side enables to Bengals to keep Williams on at left tackle or draft a replacement. I know J.Williams and he's no P.Sewell. Burrow in Cincy will have an enviable Oline with both Sewell and Reiff manning the edges. Edited April 19, 2021 by mayanfootball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 I agree that Sewell makes sense for the Bengals, but you cannot call it a sure thing. Personally, I would give them Caleb Farley or Patrick Surtain. Bigger need and a thinner position. They can expect to get a quality OT at #34. Taking the top WR also makes as much sense as Bengals drafts typically do. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGold Posted April 18, 2021 Author Share Posted April 18, 2021 (edited) I mean I know who they are. I’m just saying acting like you know Cinci is for sure going OL is pretty crazy. Possible, but I’ve seen much stranger things. I’m not sure what the ESPN article says, ESPN is a joke I’m sad I just gave them a hit lol. Edited April 18, 2021 by samsel23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanfootball Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Even if the Bengals take Ja'Mar Chase, there's too many teams willing to take a top 3 OT before pick#19. Again, you can't get by Chargers at #13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Kyle Pitts is a very reasonable pick for the Chargers. You can also make the case for CB or Edge rusher. You are acting like Darrisaw is a top five talent like Sewell. More realistically, he's in the 12-15 range. That particular list had him at #14. Given that there are zero CB and only one Edge above him on the Big Board, it's not surprising he drops to #19. Indeed, I have seen him fall to #29 from the same spot on the Big Board. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanfootball Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 58 minutes ago, onejayhawk said: You are acting like Darrisaw is a top five talent like Sewell. Not at all. I foresee him going 10-14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 (edited) That's still pretty rich. I think #13 is the top of his range and he could slide a ways if the Chargers don't take him. Maybe LV, but the Raiders are looking to defense or IOL more than OT. One of the points for trading to #19 is that Washington is another candidate to take him. I must admit, with the board as it came down above, I probably should have gone with Ja'Marr Chase. He was seriously sliding. I just did another draft with the same Big Board. Darrisaw went #29, again. it points out another wrinkle, teams don't always take the top player on the board at the position--Darrisaw was #14, Jenkins #31, Leatherwood #25. 13: R1P13 LB Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah - LA Chargers 14: R1P14 DL Christian Barmore - Minnesota Vikings 15: R1P15 QB Trey Lance - New England Patriots 16: R1P16 G Alijah Vera-Tucker - Arizona Cardinals 17: R1P17 C Creed Humphrey - Las Vegas Raiders 18: R1P18 EDGE Jaelan Phillips - Miami Dolphins 19: R1P19 OT Teven Jenkins - Washington Football Team 20: R1P20 CB Jaycee Horn - Chicago Bears 21: R1P21 OT Alex Leatherwood - Indianapolis Colts 22: R1P22 CB Caleb Farley - Tennessee Titans 23: R1P23 WR Ja’Marr Chase - New York Jets 24: R1P24 WR Rashod Bateman - Pittsburgh Steelers 25: R1P25 WR Terrace Marshall Jr. - Jacksonville Jaguars 26: R1P26 LB Zaven Collins - Cleveland Browns 27: R1P27 EDGE Joseph Ossai - Baltimore Ravens 28: R1P28 WR Kadarius Toney - New Orleans Saints 29: R1P29 OT Christian Darrisaw - Green Bay Packers Edited April 18, 2021 by onejayhawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanfootball Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I still DON'T KNOW what Big Board you're using. Now I don't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, mayanfootball said: I still DON'T KNOW what Big Board you're using. Now I don't care. DRAFT UTOPIA Ranking Position Player School 1. QB Trevor Lawrence Clemson 2. QB Justin Fields Ohio State 3. QB Zach Wilson BYU 4. QB Trey Lance North Dakota State 5. OT Penei Sewell Oregon 6. WR Devonta Smith Alabama 7. WR Ja’Marr Chase LSU 8. OT Rashawn Slater Northwestern 9. LB Micah Parsons Penn State 10. TE Kyle Pitts Florida 11. EDGE Azeez Ojulari Georgia 12. LB Zaven Collins Tulsa 13. WR Jaylen Waddle Alabama 14. OT Christian Darrisaw Virginia Tech 15. CB Caleb Farley Virginia Tech 16. CB Patrick Surtain II Alabama 17. LB Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah Notre Dame 18. DL Christian Barmore Alabama 19. CB Jaycee Horn South Carolina 20. WR Rashod Bateman Minnesota 21. OT Alex Leatherwood Alabama 22. S Ritchie Grant Central Florida 23. C Creed Humphrey Oklahoma 24. RB Najee Harris Alabama 25. OT Samuel Cosmi Texas 26. LB Jamin Davis Kentucky 27. EDGE Joseph Ossai Texas 28. CB Eric Stokes Georgia 29. CB Greg Newsome II Northwestern 30. EDGE Kwity Paye Michigan 31. OT Teven Jenkins Oklahoma State 32. WR Kadarius Toney Florida 33. S Trevon Moehrig TCU 34. EDGE Jaelan Phillips Miami FL 35. C Landon Dickerson Alabama 36. OT Jalen Mayfield Michigan 37. LB Nick Bolton Missouri 38. G Wyatt Davis Ohio State 39. G Alijah Vera-Tucker USC 40. DL Jay Tufele USC 41. LB Dylan Moses Alabama 42. WR Terrace Marshall Jr. LSU 43. RB Travis Etienne Clemson 44. DL Levi Onwuzurike Washington 45. TE Pat Freirmuth Penn State 46. QB Mac Jones Alabama 47. EDGE Carlos Basham Jr. Wake Forest 48. OT Liam Eichenberg Notre Dame 49. G Trey Smith Tennessee 50. S Jevon Holland Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanfootball Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) thedraftnetwork 31 Alex Leatherwood, OT, Alabama; tremendous ProDay results, Alex leaps over Sam Cosmi into Chiefs' top pick 63 Carlos Basham Jr., EDGE, Wake Forest; starts LDE 94 Cameron McGrone, LB, Michigan; starts MLB 136 Talanoa Hufanga, S, USC; replacement for Dan Sorensen 144 Anthony Schwartz, WR, Auburn; starts WR 175 Shakur Brown, CB, Michigan State 181 Wyatt Hubert, EDGE, Kansas State Edited April 19, 2021 by mayanfootball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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