NYRaider Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share Posted June 29, 2021 Ziarie WIlliams is the perfect example, he came into the year as a guy projected as a top 10 pick. He had an up and down season on a bad Stanford team but their team was also forced to live out of a hotel due to covid restrictions and he had two deaths in his family during his freshman season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 2 hours ago, NYRaider said: Someone I'd consider at #16 if I needed a SG @seminoles1 I did like the video you showed. You think his stock has risen that high to be taken 17th? I wouldn't hate it, but would like to trade down and get him if possible if Bouknight is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Texansfan713 said: draft express did a 2nd mock. he has the rockets taking green at 2, tre mann at 23 and ziare williams at 24. man oh man that would be a perfect haul. Agreed. That'd be an amazing draft. I doubt either player drops to #23 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: He has Moses Moody falling all the way to #18, I don't think he gets out of the lottery. And if he does can't see anyway that Memphis passes on him at #17, especially for another big. @seminoles1 I keep seeing people mock big men to Memphis. With Valanciunas, JJJ, Clarke, and Tillman I just don't see why we would unless it's an amazing value pick...but I don't think that's a possibility. It has to be a wing or combo guard. Multiple good options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, seminoles1 said: It has to be a wing or combo guard. Multiple good options. Memphis brass can't risk disrespecting Costco Kobe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NYRaider Posted June 30, 2021 Author Share Posted June 30, 2021 2 hours ago, seminoles1 said: I did like the video you showed. You think his stock has risen that high to be taken 17th? I wouldn't hate it, but would like to trade down and get him if possible if Bouknight is gone. This draft is weird because scouts really didn't get to see a lot of these guys play in person a ton, if at all, this year. After the first 5 or 6 prospects it gets murky and will really come down to team need/preference. I think during a normal draft cycle front office guys, scouts, etc are around each other more during the season discussing prospects, how they view them, and then that information gets leaked out to the mock draft guys. But this year we really didn't get any of that due to covid. I think we're going to see a lot of guys go a lot higher or a lot lower than they're being mocked, at least more so then we would during a normal draft cycle. I'm high on him, the more I've watched, the more I like him. He's only 19 with a great physical profile for a 2 guard at 6'5" 215 with a 6'9" wingspan and plus athleticism. He's a monster in transition and flashed his ability to score at all 3 levels off of the bounce. Like Bouknight he's strictly a scorer at this stage that will need to get better as a playmaker and more consistent in catch and shoot situations. I think he has way more potential as a defender than Bouknight because of his frame, length, and athleticism, he should be able to switch 1-4 and flashed good instincts. IIRC he averaged almost 2 steals per game last year. It's hard to judge him because we really only got a 15 game sample size during the covid year. For a young team like Memphis I'd feel more comfortable rolling the dice on a 2 guard like Christopher than someone like Mann or Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Kinda liking Joe Wieskamp in round 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 30, 2021 Author Share Posted June 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jeezla said: Kinda liking Joe Wieskamp in round 2 6'7" 205 with a 6'11" wingspan, 42" vertical, and shot 46% from 3 on 5.1 attempts over 31 games last season. Duncan Robinson, is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 30, 2021 Author Share Posted June 30, 2021 @beekay414 Weaknesses: - Shot creation - Ball handling - Finishing - Offensive assertiveness - Explosiveness #Top10Pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 30, 2021 Author Share Posted June 30, 2021 Watching some Usman Garuba, would be hesitant to spend a 1st round pick on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Weaknesses: - Shot creation - Ball handling - Finishing - Offensive assertiveness - Explosiveness #Top10Pick I don't get the appeal of Wagner at all. He's a fine defender but he's just not great at anything. I don't think I'd even have him in my top 20 to 25 right now. I'm 100% taking someone intriguing like Trey Murphy, Bones Hyland or Josh Christopher over Wagner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 30, 2021 Author Share Posted June 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, beekay414 said: I don't get the appeal of Wagner at all. He's a fine defender but he's just not great at anything. I don't think I'd even have him in my top 20 to 25 right now. I'm 100% taking someone intriguing like Trey Murphy, Bones Hyland or Josh Christopher over Wagner. If you're looking for a role player I guess but he's just so limited offensively, not sure why he's being mocked in the top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 30, 2021 Author Share Posted June 30, 2021 @seminoles1 I saw a Norman Powell comparison for Josh Christopher, think that's pretty accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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