DalCowboyzRule Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 15 hours ago, beekay414 said: @beekay414 receives: Picks #74 and #104 @DalCowboyzRule receives: Picks #82 and #92 @MKnight82 Reminder this is what we agreed on @MKnight82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just now, DalCowboyzRule said: Reminder this is what we agreed on @MKnight82 So Joe Ingles went to @beekay414 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 Fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DalCowboyzRule Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, MKnight82 said: So Joe Ingles went to @beekay414 ? Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Serge Iblocka and Tyrese Haliburton to lead my second unit? This thing is over gentlemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 16 hours ago, beekay414 said: It's funny. You look at DRPM and he's positive but then look at DPBM and he's negative. I typically put more weight into BB-Ref's stuff but it's just interesting how they rate these guys defensively. DBPM is simply BPM minus OBPM, it's not really an actual measure of defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinneasGage Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 **** Halliburton was my pick. Driving and gotta figure out who I want now. Pick when I get home in ~45. Blame NHraider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 21 minutes ago, Bullet Club said: DBPM is simply BPM minus OBPM, it's not really an actual measure of defense. So it's just a measure of overall impact? Explain RPM for me now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Brown Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, FinneasGage said: **** Halliburton was my pick. Driving and gotta figure out who I want now. Pick when I get home in ~45. Blame NHraider take Quinn cook, same player This mans said new Hampshire raider 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 23 minutes ago, Bullet Club said: DBPM is simply BPM minus OBPM, it's not really an actual measure of defense. if bpm is dbpm + obpm and we assume dbpm and obpm try to measure defense and offense then then dbpm measures defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just now, 11sanchez11 said: if bpm is dbpm + obpm and we assume dbpm and obpm try to measure defense and offense then then dbpm measures defense That's a worthy assumption but it's incorrect. BPM seeks to identify on-court contribution using box score stats. It's useful for offensive production and thus OBPM has its own calculation. DBPM does not. It's literally whatever is left over. The index on BPM literally reads Look at the defensive values as a guide, but don't hesitate to discount them when a player is well known as a good or bad defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 was hoping murray made it to my pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, beekay414 said: So it's just a measure of overall impact? Explain RPM for me now. BPM is a box score stat. DBPM is literally the leftovers of BPM-OBPM which is essentially stl% and blk% compared to league average. RPM doesn't have its actual formula out to my knowledge but it's far more in depth, takes teammates/opponents/etc into account and is still a combination of box stats and plus/minus numbers. That's all rolled into one to see how one impacts team performance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bullet Club said: BPM is a box score stat. DBPM is literally the leftovers of BPM-OBPM which is essentially stl% and blk% compared to league average. RPM doesn't have its actual formula out to my knowledge but it's far more in depth, takes teammates/opponents/etc into account and is still a combination of box stats and plus/minus numbers. That's all rolled into one to see how one impacts team performance. I've never really put much stock into RPM and just looking at it, apparently Khris Middleton is one of the worst defensive wings in the league. Sorry but any stat that has Doug McDermott as a massively better defensive player than Middleton just doesn't fly with me. Also a stat that indicates Tyler Herro is a better defender than Ben Simmons haha. NSJS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, beekay414 said: I've never really put much stock into RPM and just looking at it, apparently Khris Middleton is one of the worst defensive wings in the league. Sorry but any stat that has Doug McDermott as a massively better defensive player than Middleton just doesn't fly with me. Also a stat that indicates Tyler Herro is a better defender than Ben Simmons haha. NSJS. The problem with RPM is that by factoring in teammates it skews things further. Like if Khris Middleton's backup comes in and performs as well as he does defensively or the team does fine without him defensively, they deem that as unimpactful. Plus over the course of one season it's a very noisy stat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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