Xenos Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 hour ago, SMashMouthMike said: I wish they would’ve shown Perrin’s leg injury. Maybe it’s healed idk. It’s may still be there. Surprised he didn’t get it healed in the 2nd episode. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 On 11/29/2021 at 7:42 AM, THE DUKE said: Episode 4 was better, but kind of like The Witcher, I think they are going too big too fast (and I think the Witcher did it better than WoT given the non-linear storytelling of The Witcher). None of the deaths or reveals so far have really earned any emotional impact. My biggest problem, but one I think they might get themselves out of is: Reveal hidden contents The Wisdom chick potentially being The Dragon after they spent the first three episodes building up the other 4 characters would be a cheap swerve. We basically don't really know anything about her, once again, little to no emotional impact. I do agree that the Aes Saedi are getting fleshed out a little more, but they haven't really done much to make me feel on their side though outside of them talking about themselves fighting for good. The only character I really feel for at the moment is Matt and that was mostly a cheap "he cares for his sisters he's a good guy deep down" kind of setup. Rand feels close, but he needs built a little more and it needs to be outside of him being in love with the one chick who's name I seem to have trouble remembering. I take that back, they are doing a decent job with Lan as well and an ok job with Moiraine. Definitely trending up, looking forward to episode 5 and hope the writers dig themselves out of some of the pitfalls they seem to be heading towards. I'm in the process of re-reading the first book (mainly to remind myself of what I've forgotten). I had originally thought they were moving to slow relative to the book, but the first fight in Two Rivers was 100 pages in and Shadar Logoth was nearing the 250 page point (out of a nearly 700 page book). So, while they are moving fast, that's the underlying text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 On 11/29/2021 at 9:39 AM, Deadpulse said: This are clear roles in the overall narrative for each character from episode one. I don't think we have that for the Twin Rivers gang. I think this is a combination of the change from the focus in the book to where they are focusing in the show as well as the first book is the beginning of their "hero's journeys." Part of it is also that they've had to fracture the storyline so early (which is canonical). There's a fair amount of character building that happened in the beginning that they've washed over. In reading over the book, I can totally understand why (from a show perspective I'm maybe halfway through the first episode?), but by not fleshing out the characters early, there's little to tie them to you. That said, they do grow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 On 11/29/2021 at 10:33 AM, THE DUKE said: And assuming He Who Must Not Be Named isn't the big bad (which from discussion here he sounds more like a ringwraith comparison from LotR) then they really need something better than "The Dark One" to establish the big bad. The Fade is most definitively below a ringwraith. You haven't met their equivalent yet ... The show has done a bad job of establishing the religion and faith. This may be where some of the lack of urgency/emotion may be coming from. Other than the Five running from beasties, there's no understanding of why. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 On 11/29/2021 at 12:50 PM, sammymvpknight said: This is very good news. All of our opinions don't matter if the rating websites aren't on board. And it is VERY important because we NEED a Way of Kings series and that may never happen if WoT bombs. I so want to see the Assassin in White vs. Gavilar et al. scene now. Oh the fun the CGI animators could have with that battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 On 11/29/2021 at 4:26 PM, Deadpulse said: Its not too much to ask for the characters to have defining character traits and their own goals and ambitions outside of being the Dragon Again, they should have made this clear (lack of religious basis): none of them want to be the Dragon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 On 11/29/2021 at 2:56 PM, Deadpulse said: way more interesting IMO. They had a ton of chemistry and clear role as comedic relief who immediately were thrust into a clear new path after being captured within 1.5 hours of footage (or less than 2 episodes). Nothing that interesting has happened to these peeps in that time. They ran away from some dark **** that hasnt been explained yet. Wait I got it. How about how generic the characters from Agents of Shield initially seemed and their eventual transformation over the seasons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 On 11/29/2021 at 4:52 PM, Xenos said: I guess using LOTR instead, how interesting were Merry and Pippin in FOTR versus where they end up in ROTK? Heck, even Sam? Frodo was the one who was going to carry the ring after all. and none of them were interesting. ever. to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Malfatron said: and none of them were interesting. ever. to me but im one of those cretins who finds lotr so dull. i prefer this or Willow. Edited December 1, 2021 by Malfatron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 7 hours ago, Xenos said: Wait I got it. How about how generic the characters from Agents of Shield initially seemed and their eventual transformation over the seasons? yea the first season of AoS sucked lol Grant's character and actor got waaaaaaay better after the Hydra reveal though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Malfatron said: or Willow. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 15 hours ago, Malfatron said: but im one of those cretins who finds lotr so dull. i prefer this or Willow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 19 minutes ago, Xenos said: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMashMouthMike Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Episode 5 has dropped. Not great, not bad. Loved Perrin and egwene’s scene with the questioner. White tower scenes were okay but a little boring for me. Finally some lore being introduced and much needed character development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, SMashMouthMike said: Finally some lore being introduced and much needed character development. I look forward to this after I get done watching half naked funny ******* on HBO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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