The Ftont office or the coaches?

[buno67]

1 hour ago, Bonanza23 said:

Rosen would KILL in his offense. Darnold is the type that can thrive in any offense so I’d still take him 1st. 

I think either guy would thrive in any offense. To me both are special. I just think Payton could utilize Rosen more

[bruceb]

1 hour ago, dawgdish said:

I wonder how Peyton & Greg Williams' relationship is after bountygate? I'm in favor of giving everyone another year, but if we did fire Hue, a Peyton/Willams combo is about the best scenario I could hope for.

Agree.

It would remove my only reservation about firing Hue; namely: That we would lose Williams, too.

Payton and Williams probably would work well together.

[Thomas5737]

1 hour ago, bruceb said:

Payton and Williams probably would work well together.

Yeah we would have to know what their conversations were like in private during that whole mess. Could be fine or they could have burned bridges, I have no clue.

[Bonanza23]

4 hours ago, dawgdish said:

I wonder how Peyton & Greg Williams' relationship is after bountygate? I'm in favor of giving everyone another year, but if we did fire Hue, a Peyton/Willams combo is about the best scenario I could hope for.

Wow forgot about that combo. One of the big reasons I don’t want to get rid of Hue is Williams leaving. I know we’d have to go back to our never good 3-4. 

[Bonanza23]

4 hours ago, DawgX said:

Why would Payton leave the Saints?

I heard he’s not happy. 

Not tony grossi but grossi’s “source” down that way. 

[Bonanza23]

3 hours ago, ditchdigger said:

But Mayfield is the best QB, so I'd take him 1st. Payton would have him playing like Brees.

Yeah he’d fit in that offense pretty good too. I just think Rosen is a better qb tho. 

[dawgdish]

52 minutes ago, Bonanza23 said:

I know we’d have to go back to our never good 3-4. 

Dear god, anything but that!

[bruceb]

41 minutes ago, Bonanza23 said:

Yeah he’d fit in that offense pretty good too. I just think Rosen is a better qb tho. 

So take them both with our 2 higher picks, trade a #2 for a next year #1 and fill in the gaps by trading up with our lower picks to land several studs (CB, FS, WR and/or RB) in rounds 2 and 3. 

I really would like to see us come out of this draft with 4+ studs and some quality draft capital for 2019 rather than using lower round picks to throw up against the wall.

[buno67]

4 hours ago, ditchdigger said:

But Mayfield is the best QB, so I'd take him 1st. Payton would have him playing like Brees.

I dont know. Brees and Baker might be the same height but would say they have different skill set. Baker is more of a gunslinger. I get more Brett Farve type style from Baker than a Brees Style. 

[Thomas5737]

20 minutes ago, buno67 said:

I dont know. Brees and Baker might be the same height but would say they have different skill set. Baker is more of a gunslinger. I get more Brett Farve type style from Baker than a Brees Style. 

What do you mean by gunslinger? Favre led the league in passing yards twice, Brees 7 times. Brees averages a half yard more per attempt. Both led the league in TDs 4 times. Brees could throw down the field with the best of them. Favre was a little more careless but I always think of gunslinger as someone who will often throw deep not necessarily in a careless manner.

[bruceb]

2 minutes ago, Thomas5737 said:

What do you mean by gunslinger? Favre led the league in passing yards twice, Brees 7 times. Brees averages a half yard more per attempt. Both led the league in TDs 4 times. Brees could throw down the field with the best of them. Favre was a little more careless but I always think of gunslinger as someone who will often throw deep not necessarily in a careless manner.

I think of guys with big arms and little else.

In our case, Anderson.

[Kiwibrown]

3 hours ago, bruceb said:

I think of guys with big arms and little else.

In our case, Anderception.

 

3 hours ago, Thomas5737 said:

What do you mean by gunslinger? Favre led the league in passing yards twice, Brees 7 times. Brees averages a half yard more per attempt. Both led the league in TDs 4 times. Brees could throw down the field with the best of them. Favre was a little more careless but I always think of gunslinger as someone who will often throw deep not necessarily in a careless manner.

I think all styles of QBing can work. 

Gunslinger - Brett Farve

game manager - early Tom Brady

Running QB Russel Wilson

midget - Drew Bres

[Bonanza23]

8 hours ago, bruceb said:

So take them both with our 2 higher picks, trade a #2 for a next year #1 and fill in the gaps by trading up with our lower picks to land several studs (CB, FS, WR and/or RB) in rounds 2 and 3. 

I really would like to see us come out of this draft with 4+ studs and some quality draft capital for 2019 rather than using lower round picks to throw up against the wall.

I’d be down. 

[LETSGOBROWNIES]

9 hours ago, bruceb said:

So take them both with our 2 higher picks, trade a #2 for a next year #1 and fill in the gaps by trading up with our lower picks to land several studs (CB, FS, WR and/or RB) in rounds 2 and 3. 

I really would like to see us come out of this draft with 4+ studs and some quality draft capital for 2019 rather than using lower round picks to throw up against the wall.

This is great in theory, but those deals only happen if a particular player falls to that pick and the team that wants them is interested in that deal (obviously). It's not going to happen pre-draft or anything (also obvious).

If you wait for that scenario and it never materializes, you won't have another opportunity to add premium picks.

That's why I think they will almost certainly move down with Texans pick.

LIS though, I'd still move a 2 this year for a 1 next year either way, but there's no way to count on getting that offer.

[bruceb]

11 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said:

This is great in theory, but those deals only happen if a particular player falls to that pick and the team that wants them is interested in that deal (obviously). It's not going to happen pre-draft or anything (also obvious).

If you wait for that scenario and it never materializes, you won't have another opportunity to add premium picks.

That's why I think they will almost certainly move down with Texans pick.

LIS though, I'd still move a 2 this year for a 1 next year either way, but there's no way to count on getting that offer.

Slam dunk with first pick in Round 2, but not sure that I would want to give that one up.