rackcs Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Scoundrel said: Hey when the grades actually match the irl dominance its alright. Like Andrew Thomas. Obviously they're not wrong about every one of their grades. A broken clock is right twice a day. They're just not a reliable source. In my opinion of course. Edited October 5, 2022 by rackcs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 29 minutes ago, rackcs said: I hate PFF, I definitely don't use it to back up my players 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rackcs Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Just now, MWil23 said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 27 minutes ago, EaglesPeteC said: @MWil23 these posts are too fun. This thread is for long winded complaints about nothing. Please adjust Sorry, that spot is now reserved in our weekly gameday thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Just now, rackcs said: I'll say this: PFF's analytics stats and situational stats are absolutely ELITE for a lot of positions. If applied appropriately, it can be a beneficial evaluating tool. Their rankings and grades are garbage though, especially considering half the time they blow a coverage or blocking assignment grade because they can't differentiate between man/zone responsibilities or various assignments depending upon the play and audible, or if the QB holds onto the football for too long. Case in point, the Browns have 2-3 OT in the Top 10 in pass block win rate this year but last year had dreadful grades because Baker holds the ball too long. This year the ball is out quickly with JB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 I, too, like PFF when it supports my narrative. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rackcs Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, MWil23 said: I'll say this: PFF's analytics stats and situational stats are absolutely ELITE for a lot of positions. If applied appropriately, it can be a beneficial evaluating tool. Their rankings and grades are garbage though, especially considering half the time they blow a coverage or blocking assignment grade because they can't differentiate between man/zone responsibilities or various assignments depending upon the play and audible, or if the QB holds onto the football for too long. Case in point, the Browns have 2-3 OT in the Top 10 in pass block win rate this year but last year had dreadful grades because Baker holds the ball too long. This year the ball is out quickly with JB. I've heard about their stats or whatever being good, I'm only referring to their player grades because that's what I have experience with. I forget how expensive it is to get the real stats and stuff but it's way too much for me. I paid for gamepass, now NFL+ instead because I'd rather just watch the games and determine for myself how I think a player did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rackcs Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: I, too, like PFF when it supports my narrative. Even then, no. Their grades are always bad. Against my narrative: Week 1 they graded Braxton Jones as a better pass blocker than run blocker whereas anyone who watched that game could tell you that Jones was moving dudes in the run game but was giving up some pressure as a pass blocker. Obviously I think Jones has improved, that was his first game in a move up from FCS football playing against Nick Bosa in a rainstorm. But PFF was still very wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, MWil23 said: Can't miss any more weeks of voting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, rackcs said: I've heard about their stats or whatever being good, I'm only referring to their player grades because that's what I have experience with. I forget how expensive it is to get the real stats and stuff but it's way too much for me. I paid for gamepass, now NFL+ instead because I'd rather just watch the games and determine for myself how I think a player did. I just use whatever other people here post on Twitter or other "experts" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 4 hours ago, rackcs said: now NFL+ instead I thought about doing this because of all the condensed game replays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Whatever analytics support my players being good is great whatever analytics say they are bad are trash 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Guys I’ll try and get votes in been slammed with appointments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Scoundrel said: Guys I’ll try and get votes in been slammed with appointments. You gotta stop working the corner so late in the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 I'll try to get my votes in, been busy watching all Matt Ryan's fumbles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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